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Old 05-13-2012, 05:33 PM   #15
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Sounds like it will be a lively car!!!

Can't wait for them to arrive in Australia.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:33 PM   #16
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Having the rear unintentional come out in a 170whp car under 4k RPM sounds more like driver error, and not the tires.
I haven't totally discounted that possibility, which is why I was asking if others have experienced the same. It could also have been road conditions at that specific moment, oil on the road etc because of the rain.

In any case, I really think the tires will have to go before colder weather sets in sincefthey are summer tires. I would have definitely selected an all-season tire if the option were available given this will pretty much be a stock DD for me.
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:48 PM   #17
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Having the rear unintentional come out in a 170whp car under 4k RPM sounds more like driver error, and not the tires.
Could you clarify? Do you mean he applied too much pedal based on the conditions and any car would have spun whatever tire(s) the power was being applied to? Or was this unique to an LSD RWD vehicle?
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:52 PM   #18
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I would have definitely selected an all-season tire if the option were available given this will pretty much be a stock DD for me.
That was my thinking too. I wonder what Subaru or Toyota are recommending for all season tires for this car?
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Old 05-13-2012, 06:58 PM   #19
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first off- awesome and congrats!!! of course i am jealous but who isnt!

secondly- love the auto choice i may go that route myself... i have been wanting to do a supercharged upgraded auto build for some time so ill be watching with anticipation if you happen to pick up a TRD SC
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These pretty well represent the Firestorm color in person (at least on my screen)
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Love the firestorm color, and wish I could change my order to that without having to wait.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:10 PM   #22
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Thanks for the info Dadhawk! I haven't had any issues like you, but it's been raining a lot here as well. As for the stock stereo, it actually does sound really good and has great functionality. The only gripe I have with it is it doesn't come standard with satellite radio. That's pretty much all I listen to, so I'll either have to put in my portable receiver or swap in my DD head unit with sat capability.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:12 PM   #23
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These pretty well represent the Firestorm color in person (at least on my screen)
I saw the firestorm at Longo, the pics are a good representation.
Looks Awesome!
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This thread makes me feel like I'm in highschool dying to get into some girls pants. I want my car. Thank you for the good pics of the firestorm.

FWIW, my tire plans are to run Michelin X-ice snow tires in the winter and probably Hankook RS-3's in the summer months. I don't know if you get enough winter weather in Atlanta to consider the same plan.

I was impressed with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus that I put on my IS350 for a year round tire, though that was a much heavier car.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:28 PM   #25
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This thread makes me feel like I'm in highschool dying to get into some girls pants.
Aaahhhh, you never forget your first time! Mine was Saturday night at 7:00pm. She was just sitting there with a come hither look. I couldn't resist, so I slid in slow & easy (Whitesnake reference) and got her engine revving. That's all it took...she's mine for life now!

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Yea, if I haven't gotten used to RWD after 35 years, not sure I ever will.
it may just take some time to get used to rwd. take it easy at first

but seriously, when i first got my miata it has some less than sporting tires and it would break loose over the painted crosswalks at intersections. im sure new tires will fix that up. i think they just intended the car to be able to handle more and assumed most buyers would be replacing tires anyways so that was just one extra way to get the price down
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:02 PM   #27
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The one negative thing for me are the tires. They are going to have to go. I actually think they border on being unsafe on anything other than a dry pavement.

As noted above, it's been raining here. Even with nothing turned off, I have already slid the back-end on 3 separate occasions in the 80 miles I've driven it. it happened in corners where there is a layer of water. All it took was a little bit of throttle while in the turn and the back end started to slide out.

Note that none of these events were attempts to do so. The first time I was completely unprepared for it. The car is predictable and pulls right back in, but frankly I'd be concerned about letting someone else drive the car in weather or when there is water on the ground.

I'd be interested in any others that have seen this.

NOTE: Since this seems to be a common assumption, let me assure you I've got plenty of experience with RWD, I'd say about 25 years and 1M+ miles in all types of vehicles with way more power and none of which had TC until the FR-S. The bottom line is the tires really have very little lateral grip. Great for drifting, not so great for commuting.
Congrats on the car, it looks awesome.
Brand new tires some time are very slippery.
From reading the reviews, the FT car are tail happy, fun but one needs to be careful.
Magazine testers with smooth test track and lots of practice sliding around away screams for more over-steer. I have concerns that the insurance for the FT will shot sky high when people installed bigger rear sway bar for more over-steer and slide the car right into trees or curbs or whatever were in their way.
If I got my FT, I will relocate whatever I can to the back of the car: battery, windshield washers tank...
My WRX with worn star spec also slide, but my G37 S Bridgestone does pretty good in the rain, with the traction control light lit up like a Christmas tree of-course.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #28
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Congrats!! So Dadhawk, is it better than the MR2? I'm dying to know!
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