Subaru previews next-generation BRZ, announces November 18th unveiling date

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Comes back to what you want from a sportscar. Max performance or the total sensory experience, including engine note and character. For me it is a no brainer - I’m no racecar driver, and any Cayman comfortably exceeds the limits of my ability, so I’ll take the NA H6 and glory in that beautiful 6 cylinder howl.

Unfortunately, the gearing ruins the NA H6. It is sacrilegious for me to say it, but the PDK is preferable to the manual just because the gearing is shorter. For the manual, the top of 1st gear is 52mph and the top of 2nd is 85mph and the top of 3rd is 121mph, so 4th, 5th and 6th are really just overdrive gears because most people will never use more than three gears in the canyons. In fact, most use just two gears. Revving out an engine is great, but not when changing gears drops the rpms too low to stay in power, and it takes too much speed to get to the top of the gear. This issue is one of the chief reasons why I struggle with the idea of ever owning a Porsche.

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/po...g-is-too-long/

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Unfortunately, the gearing ruins the NA H6. It is sacrilegious for me to say it, but the PDK is preferable to the manual just because the gearing is shorter. For the manual, the top of 1st gear is 52mph and the top of 2nd is 85mph and the top of 3rd is 121mph, so 4th, 5th and 6th are really just overdrive gears because most people will never use more than three gears in the canyons. In fact, most use just two gears. Revving out an engine is great, but not when changing gears drops the rpms too low to stay in power, and it takes too much speed to get to the top of the gear. This issue is one of the chief reasons why I struggle with the idea of ever owning a Porsche.

https://www.carscoops.com/2020/05/po...g-is-too-long/

^This is the exact same problem I have with Boxsters/Caymans too.

[CincyJohn]

Originally Posted by Pedro13

I only hope that after the new BRZ/86 generation be launch (wherever it looks, wherever the engine HP's, wherever the HU), people stop to bitching about: "too slow", "not good HU", "is ugly" etc, etc and if don't like it, simple: DON'T buy it... Otherwise, eventually the BRZ/86 Twins will be a part of history dead and no more affordable-sport cars will be in the market, other than the SUV/CUV sea of ugly and numb cars... It's ok that don't like things in our cars, for example, I don't like at all the HU, but I love how my 86 drives, therefore I don't care...My two cents.

People on internet forums should shut up and keep their opinions to themselves!

[alone1i]

Originally Posted by Red-86

From a time, long long ago, when Mitsubishi still knew how to make good looking, sporty cars. Before they gave up completely to focus on nasty, ugly SUVs.

God I miss the 1990s JDM sportscar era. So many options and choices back then, RWD, AWD, FWD, small, medium, large, cheap and cheerful through to supercars. All with Japanese build quality and reliability. Today we just have the MX-5, the twins, the 370/400Z, the Zupra, then two increasingly irrelevant supercars in the GT-R and NSX. Back then we had the FTO, Eclipse, GTO, MX-5, MX-6, RX-7, Celica, Supra, Silvia, 300ZX, Skyline GT-R, Integra, Prelude, CRX, S2000, NSX... the good old days when Japanese brands made multiple sportscars instead of offering just one, if any at all.

No MR2?

[vh_supra26]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gymratter

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Do you even look at what is already here?

[bcj]

This one has vape smoke though.

[gymratter]

the one the bottom is slightly enhanced

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by bcj

This one has vape smoke though.

Totally on-brand

[wbradley]

Do BRZ drivers fit the vape demographic?

[Satanasso]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Mirrored teaser?

because really seems not a great design...

[StE92ve]

Originally Posted by Satanasso

Mirrored teaser?

because really seems not a great design...

Are you seriously basing your comment of the gen2 on a photo-shopped version?


Don't know about others, but I can wait until 11/18.


And besides, "Autocar has learned from a Subaru spokesperson there are "no plans" to bring the 2022 BRZ to Europe, thus likely making it a North American and Japanese market only model."

https://carbuzz.com/news/theres-alre...022-subaru-brz

[TheDonEffect]

It's going to be a long 8 days.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Do BRZ drivers fit the vape demographic?

There are two groups commonly associated with Subarus!