Daily drive for short trips with small kids NOT in car seats?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by X25

I don't know who cares about Leaf anymore besides Carlos Ghosn who had to flee Japan in a box.

Anyway, Teslas have amazing engineering. Just because its CEO has mental issues, you won't consider it? Haha : )

Fine, take a look at Ioniq5, or BMW i4, or even Bolt with its torque steering FWD; they all have amazing handling (Bolt is OK) and are so much fun to drive, thanks to physics : )

I use a '19 Corvette Z06/Z07 manual and '23 BRZ manual for road course track, but sorry, EVs are so much more fun for street use; there's no competition in my opinion.

honestly, elon musk is the least of my worries. i can't get behind the cult of teslastans. i have no interest in participating, or even being associated with that group, even at a distance.

the ioniq5 is a distant possibility. never cared for bmw's. bolt is out, i stopped agreeing with gm design decisions in 2005.

my very first rule with vehicles is that i must be able to yank the head unit out for a month and be able to operate everything except am/fm/bluetooth for that entire month. the leaf is the only vehicle that still complies with that rule. call it what you want, but newer vehicles are resorting to custom stereo eq's, and everything-in-the-touchscreen that take even longer to decode, and even more gear than ever before just to simply get a clean audio signal (toyota tacoma's 'premium' jbl system requires almost $1500 in gear just to decode and get an RCA output!). i always mod my stereo's. it's part of the enjoyment of any vehicle to me.

[soundman98]

Almost forgot, the alpha wolf is the only ev I'm really watching. But that only exists as a render right now, so a long ways to go before it can even be judged as an actual vehicle, or even a viable automotive company..

[RacingredGR86]

It took some getting used to moving from a VA STI to the GR86 with two kids. My 10 year old can still fit behind me with a booster seat and short drive to school or practices/ games hasn't been bad. The older one just sits in the front seat. Haven't driven them much when it's raining. That's the only time I think that I would miss having 4 doors as I don't have to get out of the car to let anyone in the back seat out.

It's when the younger one gets bigger the next few years that seating arrangement will be interesting.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by RacingredGR86

That's the only time I think that I would miss having 4 doors as I don't have to get out of the car to let anyone in the back seat out.

As the Twins' front seats don't return to position when folded, I only ever load the kids from the passenger side. They're not complaining about that, but even if they did there is no way I'm adjusting my seat twice a day...

[DNAcomposition]

I shot a YT video to demonstrate how shorter passengers (I'm 5'9") can fit ok in the back seat. The worst part for me was pressure on the tops of the feet due to the lower height clearance of the front seats.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by DNAcomposition

I shot a YT video to demonstrate how shorter passengers (I'm 5'9") can fit ok in the back seat. The worst part for me was pressure on the tops of the feet due to the lower height clearance of the front seats.

That looks miserable for both people involved.

[DNAcomposition]

Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox

That looks miserable for both people involved.

Hah hah, yeah, wouldn't recommend any longer drives for sure. But in-town trips for errands, pick-ups, and drop-offs are ok for me.