Cold Air Intake worth it?

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by Reaper

The header was designed for emissions. The intake was not.

If you cut out the cat from the factory header and tune it on e85, it's very easy to make over 200whp with a stock car. Factory header works pretty good. So does the intake.

A tune on e85 alone will get you close to 200WHP.

Are you sure you want to stand by that statement 'factory header works pretty good', do you mean for emissions? Then I agree. From a performance standpoint....absolutely not. Dynos of a bone stock car adding just a CAI show minimal gains, bone stock and then adding a header shows a great increase in power and torque.

Reaper and others; may want to take a look here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31555

Pretty good compilation of dynos with various setups, focused around headers.

[Buellr]

I am looking to grow the car into a solid daily driver that can keep up with anything on the road. I am not looking for 500hp or anything, but I want a solid powerband.

I appreciate all the help.

[Bakemono858]

Just buy a K&N drop in. Worth every penny.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Agreed! Just a nice drop in. Doesn't even really matter which one as they are all about the same.

No, Tcoat, Blitz gets moar power because mad JDM yo!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

No, Tcoat, Blitz gets moar power because mad JDM yo!

But damn it man it is the wrong colour and will clash with my orange car and purple led under lights I am gonna put on!
And don't give me any of that "you can't see it shit" as everybody will know it is there 'cuz of the big mother of a sticker I will have to put on my windshield to show I have it.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

But damn it man it is the wrong colour and will clash with my orange car and purple led under lights I am gonna put on!
And don't give me any of that "you can't see it shit" as everybody will know it is there 'cuz of the big mother of a sticker I will have to put on my windshield to show I have it.

I put it on my Firestom and everyone thought I was a cop because of the giant blue Blitz sticker I put across my windshield right below the huge white Scion sticker that has Scion logos on both sides; you know, in case people didn't know who makes my car.

Butt dyno told me I gained 15whp, but it's probably more like 20.

[SkAsphalt]

No. buy a filter.

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I put it on my Firestom and everyone thought I was a cop because of the giant blue Blitz sticker I put across my windshield right below the huge white Scion sticker that has Scion logos on both sides; you know, in case people didn't know who makes my car.

Butt dyno told me I gained 15whp, but it's probably more like 20.

Be hard to tell if it made a Firestorm faster since the lack of metallic/pearl in the paint already makes it lighter and faster then the rest of them! Except white of course which is balanced out by less pigment.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Be hard to tell if it made a Firestorm faster since the lack of metallic/pearl in the paint already makes it lighter and faster then the rest of them! Except white of course which is balanced out by less pigment.

#becauseracecar, bro.

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by Buellr

I am looking to grow the car into a solid daily driver that can keep up with anything on the road. I am not looking for 500hp or anything, but I want a solid powerband.

I appreciate all the help.

Solid powerband = a new header and a tune. Or the header at least.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

Solid powerband = a new header and a tune. Or the header at least.

This, but if you buy a header without a tune you're wasting money. Get the most out of the header with a tune.

You've heard it over and over now, in terms of actual performance gains vs. cost a drop-in filter is your best bet. Put the money you'd spend on an intake system towards something more worthwhile.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by BRZnut

Not to start a war but which drop in does everyone prefer??

I really liked the K&N - I only replaced it with the Injen short ram because I found it used for a decent price ("moar loud mean moar faster") - and it did feel a bit peppier.
IIRC, the dyno compilations here show it had a marginally better power gain than the others across the power band (if not necessarily at the very peak).
Plus it made the car sound much better (I hated the stock sound track - tractors are not sexy)

Also, the K&N is pretty cheap too - even for Canucks (who usually get ripped hard for parts). Touge tuning sells it for a very fair price IIRC (under $50CAD if I'm not mistaken).

[Frishkorn]

Paying $500 for an induction hose and intake were worth it to me, just to clean up the god awful mess that the stock airbox and induction hose with sound generator were.

Still haven't had a chance to dyno it to see if Mishimoto's claims of +16HP over stock are accurate. But I can feel a difference, that's for certain.

[tigermack]

I was about to look up which intake to get... just to get the most out of the engine for autocross. Seems like everyone suggests the drop-in... which I already have.