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Old 09-21-2021, 05:16 PM   #547
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It doesn't work like this. Torque falls as you said on a bigger engine in higher RPMs, because of breathing issues. Unless they totally revised the camshaft technology, which I am not aware of it. That is why I am sceptical on the above mentioned dyno numbers. I am sure that more dynos will happen in future and we' ll know for sure.
Yep more data points to use would be good. Hopefully from cars with more than 10 miles on it too.

The only info I have read about the 2.4s engine performance was that they had fuel air mixing issues at high RPM and they had a bit of a breakthrough by using more port injection to pre-mix air/fuel before it gets in.

Makes sense, Toyotas technology looks to be helpful for more than just efficiency.
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King has been around for longer than many people on these foums have been alive. They are doing constant setups including setting up racecars. We will have the BRZ on same dyno.
I follow your channel even though most cars dont interest me. What I find interesting is the way this platform generates so many views right off the bat compared to "better" yet more expensive vehicles. Maybe because it's an affordable sports car that looks classy and doesn't have such a loud presence that it brings the drivers self esteem into question?
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GR86 first drive reviews thread

First gen looked more like a modern classic, with the curves and unique styling. A modern throw back to classic curves etc.

This second gen looks a lot like a modern normal, normal in the sense that it looks simple and similar to a lot of other cars on the market. The body lines just don’t stand out.

I think my opinion will change once I see it in person, hopefully
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First gen looked more like a modern classic, with the curves and unique styling. A modern throw back to classic curves etc.

This second gen looks a lot like a modern normal, normal in the sense that it looks simple and similar to a lot of other cars on the market. The body lines just don’t stand out.

I think my opinion will change once I see it in person, hopefully

The body lines are virtually the same, it’s the detail work that’s very different in places. Once people see it in person they realize how similar it looks to the old one because the proportions are almost the same.
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im genuinely curious if this new one has crickets
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im genuinely curious if this new one has crickets
Doubt it given the crickets were resolved in the first gen with the revised fuel pump no?
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The body lines are virtually the same, it’s the detail work that’s very different in places. Once people see it in person they realize how similar it looks to the old one because the proportions are almost the same.
The new one in my opinion, looks better overall. The old one had more unique bits like the tail lights and certain accents but the new one definitely flows better. I've seen it in person and the pictures don't quite do it justice.
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The body lines are virtually the same, it’s the detail work that’s very different in places. Once people see it in person they realize how similar it looks to the old one because the proportions are almost the same.
Saw it at wicked big meet, it loses some of the bulbousness it has in pictures but it still doesn't flow at all and looks awkward, mismatched lines like every modern design. It looks simplified and more ricey all at the same time, not sure how they were able to accomplish that.
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First gen looked more like a modern classic, with the curves and unique styling. A modern throw back to classic curves etc.

This second gen looks a lot like a modern normal, normal in the sense that it looks simple and similar to a lot of other cars on the market. The body lines just don’t stand out.

I think my opinion will change once I see it in person, hopefully
I'm the opposite, I feel like you could still see the toyota camry in it. The lead into the rear fender and the wheel housings on both front and back.

Its obviously better looking and more of a sports car than a camry, but the new one is definitively sports car.

But its subjective I guess.
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Do not boost his new car. I've said it for years, but the sweet spot for these cars is wheels/tires/brakes/FBO w/ E85 Tune. In the real world, with geriatric Corvette and Porsche drivers clogging up the tracks, a well driven BRZ/GR86 has the ability to keep up with almost every normal car you see at your average HPDE.
Agreed, but e85 is actually not readily available for a lot of drivers in Canada. For example, I have one place I go to that is about 40 minutes away. It is the only place to get e85 within a few hundred kilometers. Not a viable option, unfortunately.
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I hadn't seen this one before today. Looks like a good time.

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What I appreciate most from that angle is how much more clean the lines are between the A-pillar, hood, and front fender. It isn't just a poorly executed jumble of pieces they had to make fit as best they could.



It actually looks finished. They even bothered to follow the hood line into the plastic rain gutter and made a triangle shape.

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What I appreciate most from that angle is how much more clean the lines are between the A-pillar, hood, and front fender. It isn't just a poorly executed jumble of pieces they had to make fit as best they could.

It actually looks finished. They even bothered to follow the hood line into the plastic rain gutter and made a triangle shape.
Yes! I also appreciate how the C pillar blends into the rear and finishes up with the swoop that is the duckbill spoiler.
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the swoop that is the duckbill spoiler.
I believe that's a ducktail spoiler.

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