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Old 03-28-2018, 04:38 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Deciding on finding the best short shifter

Hey everyone. I am a new BRZ owner. But I am not really new to cars. When I purchased this car I was wanting to just leave it stock and use it as my daily driver since I have a 40-45 min commute to work by myself every day to work. I tend to have to weave in and out of traffic but I don't put others or myself in danger. So from the second I got in my BRZ I realized this car wanted to me to push it. I have always put short shifters in my cars first. I had a TWM short shifter in my last car that I loved and everyone that drove my car loved it also and I know that most if not all aftermarket short shifters sit lower then stock shifters but I was curious if anyone knows if the STI short shifter sits lower then the stock shifter and if so by how much. Also if anyone could provide side by side pictures of the stock brz and brz sti shifters for comparison/review. I really want to make the most informed decision on everything I buy for this car. Thanks a bunch.
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I hate to do this but... use the search button. This topic has been been to death.
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yeah I did and I have searched and all everyone keeps talking about that I can see is the length of the throws which is common sense cause that is the exact thing that makes a short throw shifter. and other non manufacturer short throw shifters. I am asking more about the height or the length of the shifter. does anyone know if it sits at the same height . I am talking about the STI shirt throw shifter.
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yeah I did and I have searched and all everyone keeps talking about that I can see is the length of the throws which is common sense cause that is the exact thing that makes a short throw shifter. and other non manufacturer short throw shifters. I am asking more about the height or the length of the shifter. does anyone know if it sits at the same height . I am talking about the STI shirt throw shifter.
IIRC it sits slightly lower than stock.
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Hey everyone. I am a new BRZ owner. But I am not really new to cars. When I purchased this car I was wanting to just leave it stock and use it as my daily driver since I have a 40-45 min commute to work by myself every day to work...................... I really want to make the most informed decision on everything I buy for this car. Thanks a bunch.
Well, hello Gear813 and welcome to BRZ ownership ......

Ol @Mr.ac has his panties all bunched up (again) ...... but, he has a point.

It seems to me that a lot of folks have a lot of trouble with short shifters on this car. A search will show that.

So, what we used to do, back in the day, was just to cut the shift lever down and rethread it ..........

OR ....... make it longer!


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I have the TWM Performance short shift kit and it’s excellent. It sits lower than the OEM unit and also shortens the throw considerably. Overall, it’s a close to a rifle bolt as I’ve ever been able to achieve, and I’ve modified a lot of cars - highly recommended.
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I have the TWM Performance short shift kit and it’s excellent. It sits lower than the OEM unit and also shortens the throw considerably. Overall, it’s a close to a rifle bolt as I’ve ever been able to achieve, and I’ve modified a lot of cars - highly recommended.
I looked up and seems everything is metal, right? Did you bought the entire kit with bushings and such?
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I looked up and seems everything is metal, right? Did you bought the entire kit with bushings and such?
Yes, about 95% of the kit is billet aluminum or machined steel and everything included is of very good quality. When ordering, I did choose to go with the optional front and rear metal bushings. I also have installed the other following items that have affected shift quality, some more so than others:
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@humfrz thanks for the input and yes @Mr.ac does have a point but for the majority that I have been seeing is just specs on the throw reduction. And I honestly don't want to have to cut a brand new shifter down to my preference and rethread if I don't have to. I personally would prefer to stick with STI products with this car but that's just cause I am weird like that. @RJasonKlein Thank you very much for the feedback on the TWM shifter because if I do go with an aftermarket short shifter I was in between the TWM or the Kartboy just because everyone keeps talking about it but I still have to read up more on the Kartboy. Every time I have gone to the TWM website it says the short shifter is unavailable for the BRZ. And I cant seem to find it on any other sites.
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Sorry to revive a dead thread but I am currently looking for a short shifter. Would like everyone's opinion on this. I was originally looking at the FT86SF short shifter but read reviews that they rattle compared to the stock shifter, not sure if they fixed this issue or not, or if this only happens to a small batch. Any input is appreciated. Thank you.

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Sorry to revive a dead thread but I am currently looking for a short shifter. Would like everyone's opinion on this. I was originally looking at the FT86SF short shifter but read reviews that they rattle compared to the stock shifter, not sure if they fixed this issue or not, or if this only happens to a small batch. Any input is appreciated. Thank you.

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I've had the FT86SF shifter for the past year and a half. Shifter feel itself is excellent, however the rattle is annoying. I've tried many things to fix it, with varying degrees of success, but it still rattles.

If I were to do it again, I'd save the money and look at the Torque Solutions/Kartboy shifter, or spend the extra and get the factory JDM STI or JDM TRD short shifter.
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I don't understand why anyone would want a shorter shifter in this car?

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