RS*R Sports-i Coilover system, Club4AG Moto Spec. - Group Buy

[Calidrifter]

Gil, pay for my set too.

AJ, from an earlier Facebook post I think Moto will want the payment soon for delivery in September as these are all hand built.

[helloimgil]

Sure as long as you pay for my weds sports tc105n 18x8 +42

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

Gil, pay for my set too.

AJ, from an earlier Facebook post I think Moto will want the payment soon for delivery in September as these are all hand built.

[Calidrifter]

What happened to 35 offset?

[helloimgil]

Tough to find Almost breaking down and willing to accept any offset reasonable at this point. Course the smart thing to do is wait a few months until they really start making some 5x100 stuff to accommodate the 86 crowd

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

What happened to 35 offset?

[Symbiont]

Can't wait.

[Calidrifter]

Couldn't you order them as a custom offset of of their site?

It's going to be fun to look back at the pictures from this drive during future drives and see how everyone's car has progressed.

[bilen]

Originally Posted by Moto-P

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

They are 5kg/8kg Street setup with track ready adjust-ability for even track grade tires like Falken RT615K, but have the low setting capacity for OEM tires.

Video of my FRS at Laguna Seca Raceway with RS*R Sports-i

Remember reading in another thread that you had 6F/7R, has this changed?

I found a site which lists several coil and spring alternatives for the frs and :

http://brzfrsdiy.blogspot.se/p/brz-f...n-options.html

Here I see 3 coil alternatives from RS-R:

RS*R iSport Soft +0.6-1.6"/5.0k +1.2-3.2"/6.0k SPIF065S $TBD$
RS*R iSport Std +0.6-1.6"/6.0k +1.2-3.2"/7.0k SPIT065M $2449
RS*R iSport Hard +0.6-1.6"/7.0k +1.2-3.2"/8.0k SPIF065H $TBD$

As you see the alternatives are 5/6, 6/7 and 7/8.
Will not all of these alternatives give a more neutral car than 5/8?
With a relative soft front compared to the rear, 5/8, I would guess this would understeer more compared to the RS-R alternatives listed above.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Standard cars:
SPRINGS Front/Rate Rear/Rate Part # MSRP
OEM Toyota 86 0.0"/3.0k 0.0"/3.3k TBD $---
OEM Scion FR-S 0.0"/2.3k 0.0"/3.8k TBD $---
OEM Subaru BRZ M/T 0.0"/2.7k 0.0"/3.5k F:20330CA010 $79.70
R:20380CA010 $79.70
OEM Subaru BRZ A/T 0.0"/2.7k 0.0"/3.5k F:20330CA020 $79.70
R:20380CA010 $79.70
Here you se that the Gt86 has the closest between front and rear rate and thus would be the most neutral steered of the OEM setups, or am I wrong please tell me since I want to learn.

I was looking for the spring rates for the JDM TRD springs and found this site, I have no idea if the numbers or the site are correct or up to date.

Thank you for great contributing to this and your own site,

[000 Racing]

Hi there, would you send a set to Sydney Australia .. postcode 2759?? and Will they suit a 100% race car running on true semi slicks like Dunlop D03 or Yokohama A050. If not can they be valved and sprung for my purpose.. thanks in advance for your efforts here.. Chris

[ultra]

Would it be possible for me to participate in this GB from Dubai? I have credit card and Paypal ready to go. Liking the MotoP specs and the price is good.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by ill86

Very interested. What is the lead and ship time once all orders are collected?

Originally Posted by Fish

Same here. How soon would payment be required? Wondering if I have enough time to save up some funds...

Originally Posted by brzranger

Moto, thanks for setting this group buy up, quick questions: how are they warranted? What is shipping to Washington state?

Originally Posted by bilen

Remember reading in another thread that you had 6F/7R, has this changed?

I found a site which lists several coil and spring alternatives for the frs and :

http://brzfrsdiy.blogspot.se/p/brz-f...n-options.html

Here I see 3 coil alternatives from RS-R:

RS*R iSport Soft +0.6-1.6"/5.0k +1.2-3.2"/6.0k SPIF065S $TBD$
RS*R iSport Std +0.6-1.6"/6.0k +1.2-3.2"/7.0k SPIT065M $2449
RS*R iSport Hard +0.6-1.6"/7.0k +1.2-3.2"/8.0k SPIF065H $TBD$

As you see the alternatives are 5/6, 6/7 and 7/8.
Will not all of these alternatives give a more neutral car than 5/8?
With a relative soft front compared to the rear, 5/8, I would guess this would understeer more compared to the RS-R alternatives listed above.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Standard cars:
SPRINGS Front/Rate Rear/Rate Part # MSRP
OEM Toyota 86 0.0"/3.0k 0.0"/3.3k TBD $---
OEM Scion FR-S 0.0"/2.3k 0.0"/3.8k TBD $---
OEM Subaru BRZ M/T 0.0"/2.7k 0.0"/3.5k F:20330CA010 $79.70
R:20380CA010 $79.70
OEM Subaru BRZ A/T 0.0"/2.7k 0.0"/3.5k F:20330CA020 $79.70
R:20380CA010 $79.70
Here you se that the Gt86 has the closest between front and rear rate and thus would be the most neutral steered of the OEM setups, or am I wrong please tell me since I want to learn.

I was looking for the spring rates for the JDM TRD springs and found this site, I have no idea if the numbers or the site are correct or up to date.

Thank you for great contributing to this and your own site,

Originally Posted by 000 Racing

Hi there, would you send a set to Sydney Australia .. postcode 2759?? and Will they suit a 100% race car running on true semi slicks like Dunlop D03 or Yokohama A050. If not can they be valved and sprung for my purpose.. thanks in advance for your efforts here.. Chris

Originally Posted by ultra

Would it be possible for me to participate in this GB from Dubai? I have credit card and Paypal ready to go. Liking the MotoP specs and the price is good.

UPDATE:

Sorry I took so long to get back to your inquires. Just finishing up on the last big event and was a bit overwhelmed till today.
Thank you for all your inquires and commitments. I'll try to answer the above questions on one post.

I will start to request all payments before end of August 2012. This will be directly payable to RSR USA and will be shipped from RSR USA location to where ever it needs to go from there. Will Calls will be appreciated for local folks, and minimal shipping costs may apply to locations in the USA (domestic shipping), and tax will be due for all purchases to CA residents. International orders will also be welcome, however shipping will occur from USA, so all shipping fees will be in addition to the set basic price of $1700. IF all payments are in by the end of August, or arrangements made with RS*R USA, suspension kits will ship by sea and we will be expecting this by late September. The only way to save on these is in the slower sea container shipping so please be patient on this. Yes, Australia and Dubai, they can ship at additional costs from the USA.

Correction: My set is the 5kg-6kg street setup with custom valve and height pre-set. The actual units are adjustable for height just as in normal RS*R setup, only that this will arrive with my settings pre-tuned.

Also, addressing another inquiry, this is not the pillow ball upper mount type, as I believe that unless this is a dedicated race car, pillow upper will put excessive stress on impacts, and generate noises from the units which are normal to such rigid joints on any car. I prefer to keep it useful in track situations, but be compliant and comfortable for use on the street with street tires, and that was the goal of my R&D on this system. So it comes with flip-top upper mount which can adjust for slight camber increase of 1 degree, which I use on normal setting of no increase. Tires wear fine on the natural camber created by the suspension lowered by the amount of drop via the upper an lower arms, just as designed by Tada san, but slightly more since it's over the -20mm, at slightly over -30+mm.

The steering and loaded cornering balance is best seen with the video I posted of my car at Laguna Seca, using the exact setting as these units, but with Falken Azenis RT615K 225/40-18 all four. Balance isn't too far off with OEM tires, only ever so slightly more understeer, but this is an area where driving habits and skills will affect the actual character than the difference in tires here.

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

Couldn't you order them as a custom offset of of their site?

It's going to be fun to look back at the pictures from this drive during future drives and see how everyone's car has progressed.

Yes you can, but you will be paying the full price if you do order them with your own setting and can't be included in the Group Buy, as that would require another calibrated assembly process in Japan.

[ultra]

Thanks Moto-San. Please let us know the next steps (how we pay you and stuff).

[frsguy707]

Moto pease out me on the list 94590. :-)

[86_ZN6]

Add me to the list as well

[ill86]

Are these rebuildable at RS*R USA?
I've seen you post different rates and ride height. Are these 5/6 -36/32mm?