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12-24-2020, 05:13 PM | #15 | |
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Here's a list of tests of cars going way back into the past. http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm A 1967 L71 427 Corvette (435hp, ~3100 lb.) did the 1/4 in 12.9 seconds at 111 mph. Compare to a 2006 M5 (500hp, 4000lb) that did the 1/4 in 12.9 seconds at 114.9mph. The Corvette running the same ET with a lower trap speed suggests it's not having much trouble with wheelspin relative to the BMW... Anyway, running the usually close-enough hp = ((trap speed/234)^3)*weight formula (assuming 175 lb. driver) we get 494hp for the M5 (99% of claimed 500 hp) 350hp for the Corvette (80% of claimed *gross* 435hp) Those cars from the 60s weren't nearly as powerful or fast as people think... Last edited by ZDan; 12-24-2020 at 06:26 PM. |
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I can imagine one’s sexual prowess increasing having almost any red Ferrari. Having any difference due to having an ft seems negligible. Having said that, I am a fan of the former. Both having it and being with it, so...
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12-25-2020, 05:38 AM | #17 | |
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You’re right about their performance. But look at em. Damn. 80s-90s Ferraris were some of the hottest looking cars ever IMO. I thought about pulling the trigger on an old 328 when they were at the bottom of their curve, but maintenance and the lack of anyone local I had confidence in to do it kept it at dream status. |
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12-27-2020, 02:29 PM | #18 |
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As someone who just finished rebuilding their ‘79 RX7 engine, this is a very wise statement and I recommend it to anyone who is thinking of an older car. Especially one where certain parts are unobtanium.
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I go back and forth on it, right now I want a 14 cayman s, but for a little bit more I could get a 993. But that 993 will definitely need more work than the cayman. So let’s see. The good thing is the BRZ is my daily and I am done modding with a header and tune, other than maybe some cosmetic stuff. So it’s reliable and fun. |
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Check out the youtube videos of just the process to remove all the panels and get access to the engine on a Cayman. Yes, it's possible, but it's a lot easier to just pop the hood on a BRZ. |
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Not sure if it was mentioned, but this thread also brought the thought of leaded fuel to mind. Since it was being phased out as a health issue, manufacturers also suffered a lot, struggling with engine performance / dropped engine compression to compensate for knock. It's also impressive that four poppers have CR as high as 13.5-14.5:1 running 87 octane unleaded gasoline (in some cases)!
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I have zero Porsche experience, but I have heard Porsche evangelists say the key to keeping a Porsche running is drive it frequently and drive it like you stole it; let it sit or baby it and it will become an expensive driveway ornament.
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It is less important over the 1/4m especially when you allow roll out, because the tyres have time to hook easier. My point was that tyres are absolutely one of the biggest performance improvements made in the last few decades. They are worth several seconds a lap on most tracks and vital in timed acceleration runs from a complete stand still (which is more common outside the US). Quote:
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and it's usually the really stupid stuff that gets hard to find. bumper clips/trim, and door handles. sounds dumb, but all of a sudden, you're getting in/out through the passenger side because the drivers side always breaks, and there's no more parts anywhere.
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For SURE the CanAm 917 had GOBS more power than any road car of the time! Horsepower in racing is more regulated now, and some road cars have more power than sports prototypes and F1 cars :O |
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