Brey-Krause harness bar?

[yEEt42069]

Hi I came across this harness bar by Brey-Krause
https://www.bkauto.com/R_1410_BRZ_FR...r_p/r-1410.htm
Does anyone have any experience with this? Looks like a solid harness bar and I'm considering running it.

[Pat]

Originally Posted by yEEt42069

Hi I came across this harness bar by Brey-Krause
https://www.bkauto.com/R_1410_BRZ_FR...r_p/r-1410.htm
Does anyone have any experience with this? Looks like a solid harness bar and I'm considering running it.

I don't, but they make very good quality equipment. I've owned a couple of their pieces in the past.

[M0nk3y]

FWIW for most track groups harness bars are disallowed. They're simply not safe.

For that money, an autopower roll bar is a great alternative

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by M0nk3y

FWIW for most track groups harness bars are disallowed. They're simply not safe.

For that money, an autopower roll bar is a great alternative

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[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by M0nk3y

FWIW for most track groups harness bars are disallowed. They're simply not safe.

For that money, an autopower roll bar is a great alternative

What orgs are not allowing them? A couple groups have decided that if you are going to run a harness you have to have a HANS, HOD is one. That's all I have heard.

[M0nk3y]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

What orgs are not allowing them? A couple groups have decided that if you are going to run a harness you have to have a HANS, HOD is one. That's all I have heard.

NASA I'm pretty well certain they won't allow them. SCCA that doesn't meet their safety specifications.

You should be running a HANS anyways if you're going to be on the track. But that's my own soapbox I'll continue to stand on

[RT-BRZ]

To echo all of the great comments; generally what I've read is that most makers of these bars indicate that they are not for actual safety usage.

That being said, while this one is very nice looking it is also very expensive. A bolt-in four point roll bar with the appropriate corresponding sandwich plates is basically the same price from what I've seen.

Also, this one pretty much eliminates the use of the back seats so there doesn't seem to be a lot of benefit over a four point roll bar.

[timurrrr]

This miiiight be ok for autox though?

A benefit over a half-cage is that this bar seems to be easily removable.

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

This miiiight be ok for autox though?

A benefit over a half-cage is that this bar seems to be easily removable.

Sure but why spend the extra money when a Schroth setup would be a lot cheaper and just as effective?

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by RT-BRZ

Sure but why spend the extra money when a Schroth setup would be a lot cheaper and just as effective?

Which exact setup are you referring to, and how do you suggest attaching it to the car?

[rice_classic]

NOPE

[TRAKRAVN]

I have one these installed. I have the seats replaced with Sparco EVO 2 US seats and 6 pt harnesses. I also use hans device and 3 layer nomex suit as well. I typically only use my car for lapping and not for competitive events nor is it daily driven (2015 FRS with 12000km/7500miles owned since new). I bought this bar because for lapping it seemed like a worthwhile upgrade although not as involved as a full cage its easier to put the car back to stock if/when I decide to sell it. I have the rear seats deleted so no passengers are able to sit in the back.
@yEEt42069 Without causing a huge discussion on here about what's Safest (which ultimately is a full cage, seats/harness systems and the appropriate attire) I decided for myself that this was acceptable protection given my personal situation. My opinion is obviously biased as this is the route that I personally took. I would always recommend someone weigh the risks for your given situation. I however cannot in good conscience recommend doing a set up with this harness bar unless used as I use mine. A proper set of seats, harnesses, PPE (suit, hans, helmet) should also be used with this bar.

[RT-BRZ]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Which exact setup are you referring to, and how do you suggest attaching it to the car?

You can use the the Schroth ASM Rallye 4 if you're looking for a better way to secure yourself in the car. You connect the lap belt points to the same location as the stock points and the two shoulder belts join to a single belt behind the seat and connect to the upper rear seat belt point. For Autocross this is far cheaper than a harness bar and no less "safe". I wouldn't necessarily recommend this for full track use for autocross is fine.

The Brey-Krause unit is very nice. It's just very expensive when you can get a 4 point roll bar that's more safe for about the same price.

It has been my understanding that if you are not using a roll bar/cage then you should stick with reclining seats. Fixed back seats are for the roll bar/cage. I know this is something that everyone will love to debate but I'm not looking to do that. It's just what I've always been told.