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OkieSnuffBox · 11-28-2022, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWalt

Kevin's dyno was header & tune on 91 vs header & tune on E85. Peak only went up a few HP as you said but he made a decent amount of mid range gains on E85.

Spoon's numbers make reasonable sense considering their 98 RON dyno was without tune.

Good point.

Lantanafrs2 · 11-28-2022, 05:06 PM

Dyno a car that's been run for awhile and has had timing pulled back, install mods, reconnect battery and you'll see a better delta.

DocWalt · 11-29-2022, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Dyno a car that's been run for awhile and has had timing pulled back, install mods, reconnect battery and you'll see a better delta.

See OTL's bullshit header dyno...

FWIW my car made exactly the same power before/after ECU reset on the dyno using decent 93 octane fuel, Kevin was on 91 which the car seems to pull power on.

PulsarBeeerz · 11-30-2022, 05:21 PM

A setup we all wanted to see.

drift86 · 11-30-2022, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

A setup we all wanted to see.

Wow that's super impressive.

I wonder how much of that gain is due to the header and how much is from the over + front pipe? I think we've already established there are no gains from the catback.

eyeballs · 12-01-2022, 12:45 AM

That's great. I'm running similar hardware setup (though separate JDL OP/FP and different catback) also with 91 octane but moderately high elevation. Can't wait to get tuned. I figure that should offset the power I'm losing with the thinner air.

DocWalt · 12-01-2022, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

A setup we all wanted to see.

I wonder how much of that is being on 91 octane and the ECU reset...

dragoontwo · 12-01-2022, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DocWalt

I wonder how much of that is being on 91 octane and the ECU reset...

It's the elusive 5th gear pull in the wild.

PulsarBeeerz · 12-01-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWalt

I wonder how much of that is being on 91 octane and the ECU reset...

That has to be it! 30whp and 40ftlbs of torque will hardly be noticeable. The folks that think tuning isn’t worth it were right.

patsimca · 12-01-2022, 12:15 PM

Does anyone know if CSG's results are with a catted or catless EL header?

% increases are nice. Curves are nice. Very encouraging for early data with beta software.

As for the 91oct + ECU reset comment, I assume this is a sarcastic jab at people who are consistently negative against showing gains for the 2nd gens/FA24? Hard to tell with this place.. more toxic than VW forums sometimes..

RToyo86 · 12-01-2022, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by patsimca

Does anyone know if CSG's results are with a catted or catless EL header?

% increases are nice. Curves are nice. Very encouraging for early data with beta software.

It's the catless header. JDL doesn't have a catted 4-2-1 EL on the market yet. They teased a prototype a few months ago but it isn't ready for production.

DocWalt · 12-01-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz

That has to be it! 30whp and 40ftlbs of torque will hardly be noticeable. The folks that think tuning isn’t worth it were right.

I was being serious. I'd be dumbfounded if the EL header actually gained that much peak horsepower since it didn't do much of anything vs the JDL UEL back to back on stock tune.

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Originally Posted by patsimca

Does anyone know if CSG's results are with a catted or catless EL header?

% increases are nice. Curves are nice. Very encouraging for early data with beta software.

As for the 91oct + ECU reset comment, I assume this is a sarcastic jab at people who are consistently negative against showing gains for the 2nd gens/FA24? Hard to tell with this place.. more toxic than VW forums sometimes..

Not being sarcastic. The ECU seems to pull a ton of timing on 91, Kevin Vo seemingly got trapped with that when he did the OTL header test and suddenly the car made 20 hp at the peak... Which hasn't been seen by anybody else but CSG who is also in California.

CounterSpace Garage · 12-01-2022, 02:29 PM

Oh boy. Definitely fun reading all the comments. Hopefully someone grabbed the screenshot of the post with the FA20 baseline vs. the FA24 baseline for more details on what the dyno generally reads!

Rustyoid · 12-01-2022, 02:49 PM

so it sounds like I am really missing out on crappy Canadian 91 octane even with the stock tune? When we lost 94 I definitely noticed on a OFT 2+ first gen

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