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07-22-2013, 11:31 AM | #2367 | |||
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I agree that Ethanol Free is probably the best option for those driven mad by the pump, but to tout it as the "reason" the pump chirps is premature at best. |
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I am not trying to say E0 is a "fix all for everyone". But it has worked for A LOT of the people who have tried it. And denying that as evidence is just ignorant, despite someone taking one apart. Skullworks took one apart and made some estimations of what he thought the issues were, but that doesn't make it fact. And there is nothing that says his estimate and the ethanol evidence have to be mutually exclusive. You sitting around saying that, despite any evidence otherwise, ethanol content and the chirp are unrelated is just as bad, if not worse, than the people saying that E0 will for sure fix everyone's chirp. |
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I've said that everyone I've personally shown E0 to has had their chirps corrected by the use of E0. I do believe that its more likely that the people who aren't getting a fix out of E0 are probably being sold a product that isn't true E0 than there is something wildly different between my pump and their pump. BUT That statement doesn't mean that I'm not open to the fact that other people have tried and not had success. The reason they aren't having success with E0 when the majority of the people who use E0 report their chirps resolved is what I would like to know. |
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Edit: Care to comment on my car with 12k miles, all ethanol fill ups and silent as anyone could ever hope their 86 to be? |
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Let me ask you this...What have you been using for Engine oil?
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The link with engine oil is fascinating. Clearly the fuel gets in the oil but the oil can't get in the fuel so how can it shut the chirps up?
I keep repeating the obvious that transcends all speculation about the cause. Countries that don't have ethanol or it's not in the grade we use, don't have any cars with the chirps. |
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So for those of us who can't get ethanol free gasoline(and that's probably the majority of the country) what can we do to stop the fuel pump from chirping? Obviously Toyota didn't think this through if most of the gasoline in America has ethanol added to it.
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So they engineered that into the fuel systems but I don't think they actually tested it with E10 being hard to obtain in Japan. The part that's failing to operate quietly is still doing it's job and doesn't seem to be causing any other problems but the noise is from excess friction and friction causes wear, so who knows what will happen? There are oils designed to be added to fuel to provide extra lubrication. |
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I think the technical term for this is "piss poor planning"....
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At this point, I was simply curious. Just a question.
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Also no where in anything I said that you quoted do I state that its a 100% fix in all cases, but that my experience has been it has fixed everyone I've had use the E0 that I use. Why are you so desperate to push and argument no one is having? Last edited by Silver86; 07-22-2013 at 11:45 PM. |
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