how to drive a rwd car

[Victorscp]

howdy everyone, i have a brz but i have never driven a rwd car. what would be a good venue to learn to how to understand the different characteristics of driving a rwd car.

wow that sounds bad... but i wanna be able to understand the limits of the car and what it will do when i exceed the limit.

i was thinking of a drift event but was curious about autocross as well. i feel like a track would be too much right now

[justinco]

Autocross.

Cheap, accessible, usually instructors available, and very safe environment and low'ish speeds.

In my opinion autocross is just about the quickest way to learn the limits of the car and handling characteristics.

Look up your local area SCCA region and sign up!

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[strat61caster]

California or Canada?

Here's what I know if you're in California, you'll get better hits if you find your regions subforum and ask about autox or driving school opportunities. There's probably a dozen groups I missed including track day groups that set up a casual autox in the parking lot that's good for lots of seat time since SCCA and such is geared more towards competition than fucking around.

SoCal:
CalClub https://www.solo2.com/
There's a regular BMW club event too I think in San Diego

NorCal: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24748
SF Bay Area:
SFR SCCA http://www.sfrautox.com/
American Autocross: http://www.americanautox.com/
Lotus Club: https://www.gglotus.org/ggautox/ggautox.htm
Drift Central runs out of Marina: http://www.driftcentral.com/

Central Valley:
Fresno SCCA: http://www.fresnoscca.com/
Sacramento SCCA: http://www.sfrscca-sacramento.org/

[xdavidx]

Parking lots with cones? What, do you want to live forever?


Head out to Angeles Crest / Route 2



This is how I learned the 'limits' of my one week old triumph daytona back in 2013


What it will do when you exceed the limits.... crash off a cliff

[FirstWinter]

Hi Victor! Welcome It looks like you're located in SoCal. Like strat61caster mentioned you can check out autox with CalClub. If you were interested, 86Cup has events at nearby tracks in the area such as Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Willow Springs/Streets of Willows, Autoclub Speedway, & Chuckwalla. We usually run with SpeedVentures but there are plenty of other track organizers as well.

It's a great way to learn the limits of the car safely and a lot of the veterans can help you get started & even provide coaching. Plenty of us first started tracking with the 86 and for some of us it was our first front engine RWD car too! You don't need to be fast or competitive at all if you wanted to come out and join us. In fact we encourage everyone to come out! We're much more active in the Facebook group if you had more questions.

[Victorscp]

Originally Posted by xdavidx

Parking lots with cones? What, do you want to live forever?


Head out to Angeles Crest / Route 2



This is how I learned the 'limits' of my one week old triumph daytona back in 2013


What it will do when you exceed the limits.... crash off a cliff

LOL!!!!
i used to ride highway 2 religously on my 07 GSXR 750 but those days are past me. plus the cost of going over the limits on angeles crest are too high for me to pay

[Victorscp]

Originally Posted by FirstWinter

Hi Victor! Welcome It looks like you're located in SoCal. Like strat61caster mentioned you can check out autox with CalClub. If you were interested, 86Cup has events at nearby tracks in the area such as Buttonwillow Raceway Park, Willow Springs/Streets of Willows, Autoclub Speedway, & Chuckwalla. We usually run with SpeedVentures but there are plenty of other track organizers as well.

It's a great way to learn the limits of the car safely and a lot of the veterans can help you get started & even provide coaching. Plenty of us first started tracking with the 86 and for some of us it was our first front engine RWD car too! You don't need to be fast or competitive at all if you wanted to come out and join us. In fact we encourage everyone to come out! We're much more active in the Facebook group if you had more questions.

i really want to try the 86cup but i feel like that is after i understand what this car can do with me behind the wheel haha.

[xdavidx]

Originally Posted by Victorscp

LOL!!!!
i used to ride highway 2 religously on my 07 GSXR 750 but those days are past me. plus the cost of going over the limits on angeles crest are too high for me to pay

It's not all that bad if you have good insurance. I will never complain about insurance costs being too high, I've already sort of won the insurance lottery from that incident. Paid only about $15k over 3 years for around $1.5M of work. Plus, LA county gives free helicopter rides! Combined with the free morphine, I didn't really mind that my bones were all crushed. Very memorable way to end a great day of riding.



I still ride, have a bmw s1000rr now, but like you have learned (the hard way) that the crest is no playground and I don't go there anymore even in the car.

[FirstWinter]

Originally Posted by Victorscp

i really want to try the 86cup but i feel like that is after i understand what this car can do with me behind the wheel haha.

No experience required at all before joining. We have had plenty of people jump straight into it and they learned the ropes quickly! No matter what decision you make, you can't go wrong. Seat time is seat time regardless if it's autox, track, etc. It'll be valuable experience learning car control without driver aids

[Mr.ac]

Like others said autox is the best and cheapest way.

If you want to spend a bit more go for a track day at any race track. Get an instructor. To ride shot gun.

[JD001]

Or drive in reverse so that it behaves like a FWD...

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Victorscp

howdy everyone, i have a brz but i have never driven a rwd car. what would be a good venue to learn to how to understand the different characteristics of driving a rwd car.

wow that sounds bad... but i wanna be able to understand the limits of the car and what it will do when i exceed the limit.

i was thinking of a drift event but was curious about autocross as well. i feel like a track would be too much right now

A skidpad day will be best.

[Victorscp]

i have been looking around town for one... the nearest race track would be auto speedway
grange is somewhat close by and they have drift days too but ya i would like a skidpad

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Victorscp

i have been looking around town for one... the nearest race track would be auto speedway
grange is somewhat close by and they have drift days too but ya i would like a skidpad

If there is an autocross test-n-tune event in the area, it usually includes a skidpad as well as nearly unlimited runs at a course designed to help you tune the suspension on the car.


It'll be a little different setup than you'll want for track days, and if you don't have adjustable parts there's not much you can do between tire pressure and practice. But that's still something.