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trifenix · 07-11-2012, 02:57 PM

Yes e85 helps in high boost applications. I believe its properties help prevent detonation.

HKS Australia · 07-13-2012, 04:44 AM

This will be for sale soon.
Cheers
HKS Australia

Draco-REX · 07-13-2012, 08:36 AM

Wow, that's a big oil cooler.

Tradewind · 07-13-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS Australia

This will be for sale soon.
Cheers
HKS Australia

What will be the price of your piece? Around $4300 installed + tune?

HKS Australia · 07-13-2012, 07:01 PM

Errr. No. I think it will end up similar to the Nissan 350Z kit. Pricing will be finalised soon when production on kits is finished and ready for sale.
Cheers
HKS Australia

GirlyScions · 07-13-2012, 07:19 PM

You should start your own thread to get some more attention.

Kit looks great!! But, your race supercharger for this car looks even better!!

Exhaust · 07-13-2012, 08:26 PM

More torque!!! thats where the fun is! Makes you feel like your going faster than you really are, besides I love that 'throw you back in your seat' feel. Supercharger for days, though accelerated has my attention!

si · 08-03-2012, 01:28 AM

I apologize for the total noob question here, I am new to FI. With the turbo kits being developed, what kind of turbo lag can we expect.... When shopping for the FRS, I test drove the 2013 genesis 2.0T and hated the turbo lag that it had! Would we expect the HKS, AP, or AVO kits be similar or different with respect to lag?

scottman · 08-03-2012, 12:48 PM

I'm waiting for the Lysholm Screw type supercharger. Centrifugal type ones are crappy unless driven to high rpm...

rice_classic · 08-03-2012, 01:13 PM

Good work HKS. My preferable method of FI are centrifugal superchargers on small high revving engines.

MANDALAY · 08-03-2012, 07:48 PM

Bullet is on its way on the SC see their site

Coheed · 08-03-2012, 11:12 PM

I really wonder who here has owned or driven a high whp tuned NA car. Unless gutted, they can be quite peaky in small displacement.

I know people bring up throttle response with turbo, but I think it has more to do with the instant kick, rather than the softer punch a turbo has. But throttle response on some high rpm small displacement engines may be snappy, but power doesn't hit until 7-8000rpm. I wonder how many people would really chase a proper 250-260whp setup on this 2.0 engine. Surely people will get there, but to knock on the softer response of a proper turbo setup doesn't make sense when you're able to put down tons more mid-range in comparison for the same hp level.

I've built turbo NA engines, and they can be very responsive. Linear response usually requires a big turbo, and there can be some latency. But I'm running a large 6262 .82ar on a 2.0 engine now. It has a progressive and linear output, very similar to a highly tuned version of this engine NA. It just makes 300whp more

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07-11-2012, 02:57 PM	#85
trifenix Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: Toyota Tacoma Location: LA Posts: 67 Thanks: 31 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes e85 helps in high boost applications. I believe its properties help prevent detonation.

07-13-2012, 04:44 AM	#86
HKS Australia Australia HKS Distributor Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Fast One Location: Slacks Creek, Brisbane, Australia Posts: 46 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This will be for sale soon. Cheers HKS Australia

07-13-2012, 08:36 AM	#87
Draco-REX Corner Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 13 BRZ, 11 STI, 99 RS Location: Ohio Posts: 2,908 Thanks: 129 Thanked 1,520 Times in 702 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Wow, that's a big oil cooler.

07-13-2012, 07:01 PM	#89
HKS Australia Australia HKS Distributor Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Fast One Location: Slacks Creek, Brisbane, Australia Posts: 46 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Errr. No. I think it will end up similar to the Nissan 350Z kit. Pricing will be finalised soon when production on kits is finished and ready for sale. Cheers HKS Australia

07-13-2012, 07:19 PM	#90
GirlyScions Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Mazda3 Location: PA Posts: 61 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You should start your own thread to get some more attention. Kit looks great!! But, your race supercharger for this car looks even better!!

08-03-2012, 01:28 AM	#92
si Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: FRS Location: Canada Posts: 24 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I apologize for the total noob question here, I am new to FI. With the turbo kits being developed, what kind of turbo lag can we expect.... When shopping for the FRS, I test drove the 2013 genesis 2.0T and hated the turbo lag that it had! Would we expect the HKS, AP, or AVO kits be similar or different with respect to lag?

08-03-2012, 12:48 PM	#93
scottman Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 mt fr-s Location: Halton Hills, Ont. Posts: 171 Thanks: 73 Thanked 96 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I'm waiting for the Lysholm Screw type supercharger. Centrifugal type ones are crappy unless driven to high rpm...

08-03-2012, 01:13 PM	#94
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Good work HKS. My preferable method of FI are centrifugal superchargers on small high revving engines.

08-03-2012, 07:48 PM	#95
MANDALAY Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: MR2 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 146 Thanks: 3 Thanked 38 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bullet is on its way on the SC see their site

08-03-2012, 11:12 PM	#96
Coheed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: DGM BRZ Limited Location: Seattle Posts: 813 Thanks: 209 Thanked 225 Times in 157 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really wonder who here has owned or driven a high whp tuned NA car. Unless gutted, they can be quite peaky in small displacement. I know people bring up throttle response with turbo, but I think it has more to do with the instant kick, rather than the softer punch a turbo has. But throttle response on some high rpm small displacement engines may be snappy, but power doesn't hit until 7-8000rpm. I wonder how many people would really chase a proper 250-260whp setup on this 2.0 engine. Surely people will get there, but to knock on the softer response of a proper turbo setup doesn't make sense when you're able to put down tons more mid-range in comparison for the same hp level. I've built turbo NA engines, and they can be very responsive. Linear response usually requires a big turbo, and there can be some latency. But I'm running a large 6262 .82ar on a 2.0 engine now. It has a progressive and linear output, very similar to a highly tuned version of this engine NA. It just makes 300whp more

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