The Gen 2 Exhaust Thread

[danson]

Originally Posted by amelo

For anyone considering the Borla S-Type from the 1st gen, I reached out to Borla and they found that their older systems didn't work well with the increased output of the FA24. They said to stay tuned as they expect to release new equipment for the 2nd gen soon. Not sure how much of a difference it will make, but I thought I'd spread the word.

RIP I already bought one and plan to install this weekend. I dont really care about power as catbacks are more for sound anyways. Im just hoping fitment is OK.. seems to be a mixed bag. I'll definately be posting sound clips and thoughts afterwards though.

[ozafar]

Originally Posted by amelo

For anyone considering the Borla S-Type from the 1st gen, I reached out to Borla and they found that their older systems didn't work well with the increased output of the FA24. They said to stay tuned as they expect to release new equipment for the 2nd gen soon. Not sure how much of a difference it will make, but I thought I'd spread the word.

Is it possible they are only saying that to avoid losing sales for the new exhaust? If they said "Yeah no probs dude the old one works just fine!" wouldn't exactly help the new one sell, right?

[sds]

Originally Posted by amelo

For anyone considering the Borla S-Type from the 1st gen, I reached out to Borla and they found that their older systems didn't work well with the increased output of the FA24. They said to stay tuned as they expect to release new equipment for the 2nd gen soon. Not sure how much of a difference it will make, but I thought I'd spread the word.

I find that hard to believe. It's a nearly straight through 2.5" exhaust.

Their header on the other hand has been shown to be restrictive on the FA24.

[danson]

Originally Posted by sds

I find that hard to believe. It's a nearly straight through 2.5" exhaust.

Their header on the other hand has been shown to be restrictive on the FA24.

yeah i dont think its going to make much difference one way or another. Probably trying to justify a newer, more expensive SKU for 22 models

[amelo]

Originally Posted by ozafar

Is it possible they are only saying that to avoid losing sales for the new exhaust? If they said "Yeah no probs dude the old one works just fine!" wouldn't exactly help the new one sell, right?

It's possible that it's all just to boost sales of new models. However, it does seem to echo what I've been seeing from other companies. I reached out to Perrin a while ago about their catbacks for the 2nd gen and they confirmed fitment only for their 3 inch catback. They also told me a new 2.5 inch version for the 2nd gen is in development.

FWIW, I've been looking closely at the HKS Spec L2, and the 2nd gen version also has a slightly wider diameter compared to the one for the 1st gen by a few mm. I don't really know how much of a difference these small changes make (if any), but just something for people to consider if they want to. I'm sure most of the older models will work completely fine.

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by sds

I find that hard to believe. It's a nearly straight through 2.5" exhaust.

Their header on the other hand has been shown to be restrictive on the FA24.

Shown where? Links if possible please

[Simmons]

I went from my JDL UEL to a JDL equal length header.

Hopefully getting back on the dyno soon to compare.

[Midnightsky]

Equal length will make more with tuning over UEL. All depends on what you are chasing. For me, I will sacrifice whatever extra power comes from equal length just to have that UEL subie(boxer) rumble.

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by Midnightsky

Equal length will make more with tuning over UEL. All depends on what you are chasing. For me, I will sacrifice whatever extra power comes from equal length just to have that UEL subie(boxer) rumble.

I care more about power/ tq then sound.

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by Simmons

I care more about power/ tq then sound.

to each their own hoping to see results soon, very curious to find out how much that difference is. Any guesses what the difference will be? More power all across the RPM? Just up top? Bottom?

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by Midnightsky

to each their own hoping to see results soon, very curious to find out how much that difference is. Any guesses what the difference will be? More power all across the RPM? Just up top? Bottom?

These same exact headers on a 2017 made almost 10 ftlbs in the mid range. But that was also with a tune

[Mathmk7r]

Originally Posted by Midnightsky

2022 BRZ Muffler delete(tips on order). Here is a full comparison of how the muffler delete sounds on a 2nd Gen. This is a custom job, the aftermarket options will sound very similar I assume. There are 2 that I know of available today, FT86Motorsports.com and Lachute Performance. I went local to help support a local business. By the time the tips arrive and get welded on, I will have spent under $400CND. Similar aftermarket ones will cost you about $500CND plus shipping/duty(depending where you order from) which will likely net you $600-$700CND for something a good trusted local exhaust shop could fabricate for you cheaper. Sure, the aftermarket ones look more flashy, but ultimately, who is looking under your car to see pretty your exhaust is? Not many......so, save your money, muffler delete and support local businesses.

***Fly-by***
https://youtube.com/shorts/18fZHV3ghTE?feature=share

***Light throttle***
https://youtube.com/shorts/9g0wR4VnTPU?feature=share

***Medium Throttle***
https://youtube.com/shorts/5fy2EfIU8h4?feature=share

***Full Throttle***
https://youtube.com/shorts/8jGrX37BiCA?feature=share

***Highway Cruise(Interior)***
https://youtube.com/shorts/D7kBy_9gyZI?feature=share

Very nice. Do you get any drone ? How are cold start, is it insanely loud ? I am looking at something between stock and a cat-back sound wise.

Judging by the video lachute performance posted recently, it looks like what i'm looking for

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by Mathmk7r

Very nice. Do you get any drone ? How are cold start, is it insanely loud ? I am looking at something between stock and a cat-back sound wise.

Judging by the video lachute performance posted recently, it looks like what i'm looking for

Cold starts are pretty loud ya lol. But once its warmed up, you can keep it well under control by keeping the RPMs down. Drone is entirely dependant on how much right foot you put into it and what gear you are in. If I want to keep it quiet, I absolutely can. Highway in 6th is more road noise than exhaust.

[danson]

Here's my Borla S-type install. No issues with fitment or tip alignment at all. Looks perfect and the tips sit much further out than the stock tips (which look almost TOO recessed to me)

Great sound when accelerating and downshifting. Zero drone at highway or low RPM cruising.