1st gear + 0 Acceleration: Will not stall - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

TIE Pilot · 10-18-2013, 07:03 AM

Do a little experiment and the car will not stall: Standing still, put 1st gear and gently release the clutch, don’t step on the gas, your car will start rolling. (Default ~700 RPM will not let engine stall)

Also if you are driving slowly, you can shift down from 2nd to 1st and after releasing the clutch do not step on any of pedals. The car will continue in a slow roll and again not stalling.

Anthony · 10-18-2013, 07:07 AM

So you're talking about taking off from a dead stop without using the throttle?

Muskokan · 10-18-2013, 07:12 AM

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TIE Pilot · 10-18-2013, 07:13 AM

yes sir.

Anthony · 10-18-2013, 07:15 AM

Have you ever found a car that couldn't do this?

TIE Pilot · 10-18-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Have you ever found a car that couldn't do this?

Well last time i drove a manual was 1997 and a pickup truck.... so that is that. Sorry for sharing then. lol.

Anthony · 10-18-2013, 07:19 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all cars can do this. That's why I wasn't sure if I was reading it correctly or not. You could probably even do this in 3rd gear if you babied it enough. And you could probably take off in 6th gear with some gas. Not recommended, though.

FR-S Matt · 10-18-2013, 07:54 AM

Try holding the brake in and test your theory.

Foobar · 10-18-2013, 08:17 AM

Every manual I've ever driven was able to get off to a rolling start with the clutch eased in from a standstill without applying any gas. On the other hand, I've stalled every one of these cars inadvertently by releasing the clutch too fast or if I didn't apply enough gas while starting on an incline.

I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

FR-S Matt · 10-18-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar

Every manual I've ever driven was able to get off to a rolling start with the clutch eased in from a standstill without applying any gas. On the other hand, I've stalled every one of these cars inadvertently by releasing the clutch too fast or if I didn't apply enough gas while starting on an incline.

I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

The best part is when you're distracted and you forget it's still in gear and you just let the clutch out and stall it in front of people. "Oops" is all I got. I did it in a drive through in my car once. Just played it off like it never happened.

nalc · 10-18-2013, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Foobar

I've often used this when teaching someone to drive stick - forget the gas at first and learn where the clutch contact point is, then learn how much you have to ease it out to keep the car going forward.

Yup, that's the best way to go. Otherwise they never learn where the clutch bites, and just rev it to 3k while letting the clutch out. Once you learn where it bites, you can just give the throttle a little blip there to speed up the process, with less wear and tear.

sato · 10-18-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Try holding the brake in and test your theory.

Mikem53 · 10-18-2013, 08:51 AM

Why is that an experiment? I do this almost all the time..
I use little to no gas when starting out.. Used to driving big
V8's.. Works for this tiny motor too... But takes some conscious effort
To do it smoothly.. Be one with the machine..

SloS14 · 10-18-2013, 09:29 AM

This is like the Fox News of threads.

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TIE Pilot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: TIE interceptor; BRZ13 Location: Miami Posts: 309 Thanks: 131 Thanked 132 Times in 88 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	yes sir. __________________ "Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you." Jeremy Clarkson

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Anthony Weight Nazi Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 FRS -399lb, 11 335is, 05 Tiburon Location: Biloxi, MS / Gulf Coast 86 Posts: 3,702 Thanks: 5,009 Thanked 3,712 Times in 1,765 Posts Mentioned: 150 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Have you ever found a car that couldn't do this? __________________ Build Thread \| The Venus Project \| Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.

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Anthony Weight Nazi Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 13 FRS -399lb, 11 335is, 05 Tiburon Location: Biloxi, MS / Gulf Coast 86 Posts: 3,702 Thanks: 5,009 Thanked 3,712 Times in 1,765 Posts Mentioned: 150 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	Yeah, I'm pretty sure all cars can do this. That's why I wasn't sure if I was reading it correctly or not. You could probably even do this in 3rd gear if you babied it enough. And you could probably take off in 6th gear with some gas. Not recommended, though. __________________ Build Thread \| The Venus Project \| Any car which holds together for a whole race is too heavy.

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Mikem53 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: FR-S 6MT Location: Somewhere in Space Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 500 Thanked 882 Times in 433 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why is that an experiment? I do this almost all the time.. I use little to no gas when starting out.. Used to driving big V8's.. Works for this tiny motor too... But takes some conscious effort To do it smoothly.. Be one with the machine..

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