Legal Question

[Poodles]

You're in Kalifornia... Which means you're fucked if you're caught.


Also why I'd never live there.

[Leonardo]

Move to Oregon, in a non -urban area like Eugene. No emission testing. We still have noise tickets though. Got one for my JL subs back in the day.

Basically don't get pulled over with illegal stuff. Good luck!

I know. Captain obvious.

[FRS Johnny]

Don't drive a modded car in irvine. And just drive nicely, no need to use lots of reves for daily driving. Be aware of your surroundings. If you see a cop, just drive as quiet as you can, or make a quick turn to not be on the same street as them.

[Mitchlubanko]

Originally Posted by FRS Johnny

Don't drive a modded car in irvine. And just drive nicely, no need to use lots of reves for daily driving. Be aware of your surroundings. If you see a cop, just drive as quiet as you can, or make a quick turn to not be on the same street as them.

Hahaha, thats for sure. I got pulled over 3 times in Irvine, thats where I work. They got me everytime for loud exhaust (before I took cats off) and tinted tail lights. I was lucky enough to get no ticket each time!

[FRS Johnny]

Originally Posted by Mitchlubanko

Hahaha, thats for sure. I got pulled over 3 times in Irvine, thats where I work. They got me everytime for loud exhaust (before I took cats off) and tinted tail lights. I was lucky enough to get no ticket each time!

Infamous officer Gales

[93Targa]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

All it takes is passing the wrong cop on the wrong day. It happens a lot more often than you'd think, but the *cost* of getting caught can be fairly low if you spend the money to return the car to stock. The cost of the ref/inspection can be as low as $25 processing and $8.75 inspection, if the car shows up legal to the state ref.

Now emissions tampering? You have to REALLY piss off a cop for that...

This! Certain cops just love pulling over cars that look modified. Others will only do it if you stand out from the crowd.

Don't drive like an @$$hat. If you want attention, I'm sure they'll provide it in the form of tickets.

I drive through Irvine on a daily basis. Sometimes with a RED Supra that has a HKS Carbon Ti exhaust on it. I've driven in front of, behind and next to police cars. No incidents yet!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by 93Targa

This! Certain cops just love pulling over cars that look modified. Others will only do it if you stand out from the crowd.

Don't drive like an @$$hat. If you want attention, I'm sure they'll provide it in the form of tickets.

I drive through Irvine on a daily basis. Sometimes with a RED Supra that has a HKS Carbon Ti exhaust on it. I've driven in front of, behind and next to police cars. No incidents yet!

This.

I've driven through Irvine regularly in 125+ dB cars, without issue. You have to give them a reason to pull you over.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Mitchlubanko

Quick question:

I just got a berk technology track pipe, and a JT catless front pipe. Sounds super loud! Just wondering how much trouble I can get in if pulled over and caught without cats?

Originally Posted by Mitchlubanko

Hahaha, thats for sure. I got pulled over 3 times in Irvine, thats where I work. They got me everytime for loud exhaust (before I took cats off) and tinted tail lights. I was lucky enough to get no ticket each time!

Wait. What?
You have already been pulled over 3 times for being loud and now you are going louder?
Dude you are fucked!

[Fastbrew]

I figure that by running E85 I make up for not having a cat. So clean.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You want worst case? ALL of the following can happen at the same time.

- You will get an emissions ticket. This is a federal offense

The rest of your statement is correct, but people need to stop waving the federal offense flag. It isn't true. Allow me to clarify. I don't know how state laws work in the People's Republic of California, I am only talking about federal laws in this post any responses about state laws are unnecessary. I'm not saying it's legal, and I'm not addressing applicable state laws, as EPA states specifically that state laws may exceed the requirements of the applicable federal law.

If you're a shop owner, and you uninstall cats, and they can prove you knew the vehicle was going to drive on the street, you're F*cked for violating the clean air act. Good luck enforcing that in most states.

If you're caught driving the car (as an owner) It isn't a federal ticket unless they can prove you are the person who tampered with the emissions control. It isn't illegal to own or drive a vehicle with tampered or disabled emissions controls. The offense applies SPECIFICALLY to removing it. You can even buy or resell the vehicle.

The resale of a vehicle which has already had the catalytic converter removed is not specifically addressed by federal law. Therefore, the person who removed the converter violated federal law, but not necessarily the person who sold the vehicle, or the person who bought it, or the person driving it.

To reiterate: the law only addresses the act of removing or tampering with the system, and no act thereafter.

42 U.S.C. 7522 is the applicable law here.

[yamrossi]

So in CA, the only ways to add power or remove the 'dip' is NA tune, FI with or without tune.
There are a few others like intake, cat back exhaust etc. But the gain is low. No headers, full exhaust in CA.

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