2023 Cadillac Lyriq

[Dadhawk]

Cadillac announced today that all "wait list" orders for the 2023 Lyriq are full and beginning today any placed will be MY2024 preorders rather than 2023 wait list.

The press is at a drive event this week for the Lyriq, with a press hold until 6/28. There have been a couple of walkarounds of the production model though. This is the first one I've seen of a production vehicle.

[Dadhawk]

in-depth walkaround.

[Dadhawk]

And driving Impressions with some POV

Watched several other reviews. Biggest complaints are:

Weird Door Entry
No Frunk (GM has said all along it wouldn't have one as they chose to keep the electronics under the hood to conserve space in the back)
One reviewer from KBB likes the interior of a KIA better (?)
No HUD
No climate control/heated seats in the back.

Overall though, the reviewers are saying Cadillac did it right. They only had the chance to drive the RWD, which has the motor out of the Hummer in it. Seems like the RWD has adequate power, but most think the AWD/500HP is the better deal as it is only a $2,000 option.

Most have said it's the quietest car they have ever driven. GM has mics at each wheel and active noise cancellation inside that gets rid of squeaks and road noise.

I've done some route planning with a couple of EV fueling apps. The range is relatively perfect for what I would say is 98% of my driving (road trips up to 600 miles a day).

As an example, we are traveling from the Atlanta area to the Tampa area next week. Leaving home with a 90% charge, we would be required to make one charging stop about midway for under 30 minutes (fast charger) and would arrive at our destination with a 15% charge. Since we could easily combine that stop (it's at a Walmart with restaurants nearby) with a normal stop for us, charging is really no different than if we took our Suburban.

[Lantanafrs2]

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Savage Geese review

Good video, particularly liked the engineering insights.

Most dings are the same, door handles, some other minor things. Interesting how much he hated the radio system though, that's a new one. Most have raved on it. Maybe he got a bad "prelaunch" version?

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Since we could easily combine that stop (it's at a Walmart with restaurants nearby) with a normal stop for us, charging is really no different than if we took our Suburban.

As long as there is no line at the charging station...

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

As long as there is no line at the charging station...

True.

[Dadhawk]

The first of the Lyriqs have been shipped to dealers. The first ones are going to NY, LA and Detroit per this article.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

As long as there is no line at the charging station...

But people wait in costco lineup for gas so the whole waiting thing is moot.......




<ignores the fact it takes another 15-20mins to actually charge vs 3-5mins to refill the gas>

[Stonehorsw]

It’s time to get rid of the rearview mirrors on this kind of vehicle. Cameras would do the work even in a better way.

Probably this is related to regulations, and someone must be working on that.

Saw the vehicle several times on the street, but did not have a chance to drive so far. It still reminds me a bulkier version of the european gen2 focus.
First vehicle delivered was at Cadillac Novi.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Stonehorsw

It’s time to get rid of the rearview mirrors on this kind of vehicle. Cameras would do the work even in a better way.

Probably this is related to regulations, and someone must be working on that.

Saw the vehicle several times on the street, but did not have a chance to drive so far. It still reminds me a bulkier version of the european gen2 focus.
First vehicle delivered was at Cadillac Novi.

Not sure I would want that. The back up camera (I know not the same thing) is useless for about 1/2 the year here since it is totally covered in slush and spray. At least with a mirror you can clear the window and see. Of course you could wipe the camera off every time but you just know there will be many that won't bother.
All in all the tech is way better but some of the old school equipment still has a place.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

But people wait in costco lineup for gas so the whole waiting thing is moot.......




<ignores the fact it takes another 15-20mins to actually charge vs 3-5mins to refill the gas>

I have waited at pumps for well over 15 minutes as some needlehead left their car at the pump and bought snacks, cashed in lottery tickets, picked new lottery tickets, argued about some petty thing, dug through their purse/pocket for change, were totally baffled by how a debit machine works, changed their mind and wanted to add remove something after they have paid, or probably 100 different bizarre reasons. Can't imagine waiting behind these people to charge!

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Stonehorsw

It’s time to get rid of the rearview mirrors on this kind of vehicle. Cameras would do the work even in a better way.

The RWD Lyriq has a rear view mirror that you can flip between mirror and camera view.

The AWD version coming in January doesn't have that feature, supposedly because of the towing package on it.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not sure I would want that.

I think the option to have both is good but I'd probably still prefer the standard reflection rather than the camera.