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I like to listen to pops&bangs but I wouldn't do it on my car just because I think such tune is not good for the engine especially when you take the car to a track or just drive "spiritually". I'm a fan of a tune that makes engine more responsive, and not only increases it's peak power and torque, but also improves it throughout the rev range. If you have a catless exhaust the car will shoot flames, but it will happen naturally under certain conditions, not artificially whenever you touch the accelerator. That I like even better.
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Again, it isn’t my definition. It is the common definition. We can’t ignore the common usage of a word because there is also a general definition of the word. Maybe the future definition of a driving enthusiast will be a Tesla driver using AutoPilot instead of sleeping in the back seat using FSD, but right now, ask a motor journalist what a driving enthusiast is or what a driver’s car is and it will conjure a similar definition to what I defined. Watch enough content and this is patently apparent. I feel like we are having a vocabulary lesson on the common usage of woman or man in a gender/transgender debate. Yes, woman and man can be used to describe a wide range of characteristics among people, but there is a common usage and common occurrence. If I said man, I would expect people to not be confused that I’m talking about the common usage of male and not potentially referring to a non-binary, transgender male unless clarified. BTW, 5,000lb EVs don’t handle like they are on rails. They handle better than other 5,000lb ICEs, and their weight keeps them planted to the road like a diesel truck, so they don’t get squirly. They can be fast like a GTR is big and fast or a Veyron is big and fast, but it isn’t a pleasure to drive in the corners. It isn’t rewarding at 10/10ths, irregardless of track times.
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so then if i don't track the car, don't race the car, or work on the car much, what am i?!?
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Oh for sure. But because you don’t do it doesn’t mean you are not an “enthusiast “.
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https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...80422.amp.html Even the CEO of Bugatti said the Veyron wasn’t a great handling car when describing the improvements and goals of the Chiron. But that is just his anecdotal, subjective opinion. Can someone drive a Veyron at 10/10ths and enjoy it? Yes. It could have average to subpar slalom, 60-0 or skid pad tests for its price. It could be numb and not communicative. It could be overpowered by electronics working in the background and making it easy for a poor driver to handle the car. By these qualities and metrics, it could be great because opinions are subjective. Celine Dion sings… Someone’s three year old sings… Mother claims daughter is better. Music taste is subjective. Therefore, we have no metrics to claim either is better. Why do people even listen to motor journalists if their opinions are subjective and baseless in what anyone else can expect to experience? The position that enthusiast is used to describe a typical brand of driver isn’t subjective. That claim is objective and testable. Just because we can’t resolve it here doesn’t change that fact. The common usage is the common usage irregardless of how others try to apply the word over a broad range of people in a more obscure manner.
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Do you ever push the car into the higher tenths of what it can handle? No, then you might be just as satisfied with something less capable from a driving enthusiast perspective. If you just like the looks then you are in the same boat as everyone else who enjoys their car for the subjective. If it is something else then it is something else. Nothing wrong with it.
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so what title is that?
i need to make the windshield banner so they stop trying to race me at the stop lights.
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I don’t know man. No one tries to drag race a Prius or Corolla. Maybe people know the car is slow, but looks like it is trying to convey it’s fast, so they want to check the over-posturing. People are silly. I had a BMW fly past then slow down in front of me and take off like he wanted to show me that I couldn’t catch him. Meanwhile, I am flipping through music. Like if the dude wanted to race then that wasn’t how it is done—in single file with no warning of starting a race. I find more trucks posing than cars where I live. Some people just like the shape of the 86 or the ride of of a lifted truck. Ehhh. It is what it is. I don’t see a lifted truck and assume there is an off-road enthusiast behind the wheel—actually quite the opposite. Same with most 86 owners; I don’t assume they are driving enthusiasts, or even broadly, a car enthusiast. I typically need to see a few mods to make the assumption that they are probably a car enthusiast and perhaps a driving enthusiast. If it is bone stock then anything is possible, but it could be a Prius driver behind the wheel too who is just in a different shaped commuter.
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a person who acts in an affected manner in order to impress others But I didn't do anything with my car to impress others...
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