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spike021 · 08-17-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not sure what you are trying to say, but the AT has always had paddles.

IIRC some base trims in other countries didn't. Like Australia. My friend (in AU) and I just talked about this a few months back, he didn't realize that in the US all the models have the paddles.

Dadhawk · 08-17-2021, 12:51 PM

All of the reviewers (at least the handful I watched) are going out of their way to say the MK1 was "slow" and that the torque curve is fixed, mostly, but none have said the car actually IS faster. I'm assuming it must be given the extra horsepower, but is it enough to care, assuming you know how to drive the MK1?

Bobharp · 08-17-2021, 01:11 PM

My favorite comment so far (savagegeese at 16:42)

This car is "a public service"

Kona61 · 08-17-2021, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

All of the reviewers (at least the handful I watched) are going out of their way to say the MK1 was "slow" and that the torque curve is fixed, mostly, but none have said the car actually IS faster. I'm assuming it must be given the extra horsepower, but is it enough to care, assuming you know how to drive the MK1?

It is definitely faster in a straight line, by the several drag races in different videos.

On track in the Throttle house one, it seems like it is as well. The GR86 turned a 1:15.9 vs a low 1:15 for a FRS with RS4s. So seems like it could go faster with similar tires.

Yoshoobaroo · 08-17-2021, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

All of the reviewers (at least the handful I watched) are going out of their way to say the MK1 was "slow" and that the torque curve is fixed, mostly, but none have said the car actually IS faster. I'm assuming it must be given the extra horsepower, but is it enough to care, assuming you know how to drive the MK1?

Guff · 08-17-2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau

if the fake noise is the biggest complaint people have, then this car is a success.

i'm curious if future brz/gr86 will receive a performance package. not sure if toyota hinted that at the press event.

Yeah, I pressed the marketing guys and its pretty much guaranteed. They're gonna run this life cycle just like the previous one. Hella special editions.

Guff · 08-17-2021, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

All of the reviewers (at least the handful I watched) are going out of their way to say the MK1 was "slow" and that the torque curve is fixed, mostly, but none have said the car actually IS faster. I'm assuming it must be given the extra horsepower, but is it enough to care, assuming you know how to drive the MK1?

I'd say It's the equivalent of a header and E85 tune on a first-gen. But with an even better top end. If that helps give you an idea.

FrickingReallySlow · 08-17-2021, 01:37 PM

Jason Cammisa always has the best reviews....Porche 944's spiritual successor

"Can we be honest about why we care about these cars?.....WE"RE POOR" haha

"Toyota is giving out free track instruction with the purchase of any GR 86. Porsche should give out a free GR 86 with the purchase of every 911 GT3 RS so that its buyers can finally learn how to drive them." - Jason Cammisa

Lantanafrs2 · 08-17-2021, 01:59 PM

Somebody wake shiv up. Time to go to work

Dadhawk · 08-17-2021, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021

IIRC some base trims in other countries didn't. Like Australia. My friend (in AU) and I just talked about this a few months back, he didn't realize that in the US all the models have the paddles.

I would have never bought the AT without paddles. From a couple of reviews it sounds like the AT may have slipped backwards a bit in performance as well.

NoHaveMSG · 08-17-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BrahmaBull1990

The reviewers, and those of us here, are more car enthusiast then the average buyer who probably won't give a shit.

ayau · 08-17-2021, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff

Yeah, I pressed the marketing guys and its pretty much guaranteed. They're gonna run this life cycle just like the previous one. Hella special editions.

i would assume on the subaru end as well. a brz ts 2.0 would be cool. maybe toyota will make a GRMN 86.

Sport-Tech · 08-17-2021, 03:25 PM

For those interested in the finer details of the inter-generational changes, Carscoops goes more in-depth than I've seen elsewhere:

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/08/dr...good-doing-it/

timurrrr · 08-17-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

They did drive the first gen didn't they? Disappointed, Motorweek doesn't usually make such basic mistakes....

Check out the Savage Geese video.
For some reason, some of the 1st gen automatics they had at the presentation didn't have paddle shifters. Perhaps pre-production prototypes?

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