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08-30-2021, 09:37 AM | #57 |
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“Summer” tire is a very wide scope with a wide range of characteristics and qualities. Primicy’s are very different then A052’s.
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The operative phrase in the Tire Rack article is "High Performance Summer Tire". The Primacies are not high performance tires. Yes, they're summer tires, and yes, they are not meant for driving at or near freezing all winter long. But they are not going to be damaged on the drive home from the dealer. Here is what Michelin says: Quote:
I guess when you said in your first post that you hoped to drive the car a bit before winter hit, it sounded like this was going to be a second/weekend vehicle. If it's going to be your daily, then you'd want winter tires regardless of what it came with. If the plan was to AutoX or track it, you'd want different tires regardless. If the plan was to buy the car, tool around a bit for the tail end of Fall and then put it away until Spring? You'll be fine. Lastly, complaining about the tires Toyota puts on their entry-level sports car is kind of silly. Porsches come with PS4s; those aren't great in the winter either, but it is what it is. Even then, early on Toyota did switch over to Bridgestone All-seasons in northern markets for the winter season - I don't know if that's something that has continued in recent years though, maybe someone can chime in. |
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I believe that tires are kind of important to the safe operation of a vehicle. I know that my wife will drive this car and ride in it as a passenger. I may be willing to be somewhat cavalier with my own life, but I don't roll the dice with hers. Therefore, I still consider it important to know at what temperature the tires can be safely driven on, even if your idea of "safe" and mine don't agree. Quote:
People should take more personal responsibility, and educate themselves about things like this but we don't live in that mythical world. We live in a world where we need warning labels to tell people not to stop a chainsaw blade with their genitals. Yet I'm fairly certain that if I bought a GR86 while it was -14F the most I'd get from the dealership would be a "careful, roads are slippery" kind of warning. (I have yet to meet someone at a car dealership that seemed to know anything about cars in general - to say nothing of tires.) |
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there is a sale this weekend at discount tire direct and you can get a set of Michelin AS4 for 170 off. swap them on after you take delivery of the car.
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so much noise in this thread. i'm not sure why it's so complex.
don't drive this car in the winter (below 40F) regardless if you have the Primacies or PS4. get some properly rated all-season or winter tires. |
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Where do you keep coming up with 40F or under? Out of curiosity as I have only seen that stated on extreme performance summer tires. And is that sunny or cloudy day? Is it better to run an appropriate tire for the conditions, yes. Is it absolutely required and causing damage, probably not.
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https://www.michelinman.com/auto/tip...e%20its%20grip. Nobody is forcing you. Do what makes you feel comfortable. |
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One companies statement does not make it an industry standard. Though again, this is mostly a performance recommendation that I agree with. OEM tire knowledge for passenger cars, no. I am an OEM for another industry with mostly inapplicable usage conditions and constructions with 3 different manufacturers making our product in 2 different countries. Rubber compounds are very very similar to a passenger tire, mostly the usage and construction of the casing is much different.
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