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Real car, I still enjoy autocross more. Not entirely sure why. I do enjoy the (mostly) never the same twice nature of it.
I only sim race for the rest any more. I've been on track. It's fun. And I don't trust myself or the car or others and that sucks fun away. I've been in my car when it was wrecked at an autox and I think I'm still dealing with minor injury side effects, neck muscle issues and such. No way I want to do that on track. Or again. Expensive stuff. Not everyone has the same journey. You'll find your path. Enjoy it.
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To add, there's skills you learn in W2W that you cannot learn in TT. Most notably is race craft - How to drive in traffic, how to drive off-line in traffic, initiating clean passing etc. Beyond that, it's just fun. There's budget series around like GLTC and Chumpcar which offer that excitement at lower cost of entries. I will say, there's nothing quite like W2W as far as adrenaline goes. The time I did Champcar was basically the best time I've ever had on track by miles.
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I went ahead and invested in a Hans Hybrid device even though I still drive on track with 3 point restraint. I talked to a guy that got a whiplash that was so bad, it damaged an artery in his neck. I figure it's also safer when I might ride in an instructor's car that has 5/6 point restrain. |
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I read this header as Where does the "track rabbit" hole lead? I thought you were genuinely curious about where the mechanical rabbit track dogs chase goes after the race.
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Every seriously competitive grassroots w2w effort will require buying several Hoosiers per year, whether it's gltc spec Miata spec racer Ford or dirt track midgets sprints and late models.
You may be able to autocross or time trial or kart at a high level (by that I mean a contender for winning a national event or points series) for <$10k/year if you're good, but to get gud quickly you probably need to spend that much money for a few years to develop (assuming you're an average Joe) or be willing to take a long time to git gud. inb4 creative accounting; the only way to race cheap is on a sim. More fun to do it the other way round tho. One of my mentors was always an advocate for mixing business and pleasure. He was fresh off his second divorce at the time so maybe he isn't the role model I need right now... Edit: Also I like Hoosiers, they aren't the devil incarnate, looking forward to their 200tw Enduro compound. |
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Fair. But missed the point which was a difference of scale.
Racing at the front of a SM pack nationally vs mid-pack is both racing, both competing but at massively different scales of financial and time commitment. The point I'm trying to make is that there's more racers willing to race knowing they won't be at the front then there are who are only willing to race IF they are at the front. Because of this statistical reality - If there weren't MORE people willing to go racing who knowingly won't be competing to win - THERE WOULD BE NO RACING, especially at the grassroots level. Imagine the Runoffs with 80 entries or an F1 grid with 6 cars - instantly unsustainable. There's reasons and value for competing even if you're not competing for the win - in all competitive endeavors.
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