Note to US FR-S rebadgers.....

[Shinchu]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL "Calm down"? Did that really sound angry or excited? Shit, now does this sound angry or excited? Was just throwing some examples out there and in no way agitated.


I had no clue what an AE86 was until I joined this forum. If they feature the new 86 in an anime then it could indeed go way up in value. Otherwise Scion or Toyota badging it will be worth the same.

its already in the new episodes of the same anime.
and the anime isn't what got the AE86 to cult status. its the other way around.
and the whole reason I bought an FRS is because its a nod to the AE86, which I have owned 2 of.


I guess you don't know who beavis and butt-head are either?

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

Love how mine looks without a badge on the front. It does confuse some parking attendants, but surprisingly almost all of them know its a subaru anyway.

and speaking of AE86, I had a TRD spoiler on mine that covered up the decals saying TOYOTA COROLLA. one tow truck driver thought it was a mustang! haha I guess that's why he drove tow trucks... also had a cop write a ticket that said 87 Honda accord. I was like wow dude it says what it is on my insurance AND registration. got that one thrown out

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Are people really that ashamed that they drive a scion? From where I am from the brand rep was very neutral.

Recently a guy stopped me in a parking lot wanting to ask questions about my car. When I told him it was the same car as the Scion FRS, he said, "But surely the Subaru is better made than THAT piece of shit! Aren't Scions all junk?"

Scion doesn't have a great reputation. If it did, it would still exist.

[kakacarrotcake]

Originally Posted by Shinchu

and speaking of AE86, I had a TRD spoiler on mine that covered up the decals saying TOYOTA COROLLA. one tow truck driver thought it was a mustang! haha I guess that's why he drove tow trucks... also had a cop write a ticket that said 87 Honda accord. I was like wow dude it says what it is on my insurance AND registration. got that one thrown out

So what you're saying is I should put Subaru badges on my FRS so I can fight the tickets?

[TRD-X]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And even if it did have an 86 (which they don't) it isn't a GT 86!

@Tcoat the Japanese only have the Toyota Emblem on the rear.

The Europe 86 model is a gt86 and Australia has the GT /GTS models.





OP any FR-S Release Series is equal to the 86 as it's a limited model.

[TRD-X]

Toyota already offers my car as a 86.

It's the same car minus the yellow paint and it's right hand drive.

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Go retro 80s Toyota with the "TOYOTA" block letters and be done with it.

I did that in the back...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by TRD-X

@Tcoat the Japanese only have the Toyota Emblem on the rear.

The Europe 86 model is a gt86 and Australia has the GT /GTS models.





OP any FR-S Release Series is equal to the 86 as it's a limited model.

I know! That is why I said "they don't". Also why I said that the Monogram (and by implication all specials with the same options) could be called GTs.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Shinchu

its already in the new episodes of the same anime.
and the anime isn't what got the AE86 to cult status. its the other way around.
and the whole reason I bought an FRS is because its a nod to the AE86, which I have owned 2 of.

I guess you don't know who beavis and butt-head are either?

The anime didn't hurt!

Dude I am 56 years old I know perfectly well who Bevis and Butthead are.

[Shinigami301]

Beavis. Just sayin'.

[Riftur]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Recently a guy stopped me in a parking lot wanting to ask questions about my car. When I told him it was the same car as the Scion FRS, he said, "But surely the Subaru is better made than THAT piece of shit! Aren't Scions all junk?"

Scion doesn't have a great reputation. If it did, it would still exist.

That guy is just uninformed. Between Toyota and Subaru, Toyota's are a way more reliable car. My father has been a mechanic since he was 15 and used to tell me how bad Subaru's were. Very unreliable and they never wanted to cover warranty work. Also getting parts was a hassle. I love the WRX but since my father always had to fix my cars I was warned not to buy one. Personally I think if it wasn't for the WRX, which is one of my favorite cars, the brand wouldn't be as popular. Just my opinion though.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Between Toyota and Subaru, Toyota's are a way more reliable car.

We weren't talking about Toyota. We were talking about Scion. And it's not a matter of reliability ratings. It's about public perceptions.

Despite the fact that Scion was made by Toyota, it was a different brand with different styling, marketed to a different group of people. By selling cheap ugly cars to young people with really horrible taste (the FRS being the exception), Toyota's own marketing people created an image of Scion as being garbage throwaway cars, separate from the marketing image of Toyota as being reliable.

The guy I was talking with (and most people who are not Toyota fanboys) have likely never seen any data on safety or longevity of the Scion models. All they have seen are douchebag white boys wearing baggy jeans and backwards baseball caps driving shitty cars around with their buzzy stereos cranked up to 11 to assault everyone's senses with how cool they aren't. That, coupled with the low prices, implies a lack of quality. The perception is that Scion was junk.

[Doubletap]

With the FRS/86 I think it's OK to re-badge it to a Toyota, as the rest of the world got it as such. It's not pretentious because the badge isn't making it out to be another car. It's no worse than rebadging a Honda Fit to a Jazz or a Lexus IS to an Altezza.


Pretentious rebadging is putting an M badge, AMG etc. or a badge that never belonged to the car, at all, in any market.


Just my 2 cents.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

We weren't talking about Toyota. We were talking about Scion. And it's not a matter of reliability ratings. It's about public perceptions.

Despite the fact that Scion was made by Toyota, it was a different brand with different styling, marketed to a different group of people. By selling cheap ugly cars to young people with really horrible taste (the FRS being the exception), Toyota's own marketing people created an image of Scion as being garbage throwaway cars, separate from the marketing image of Toyota as being reliable.

The guy I was talking with (and most people who are not Toyota fanboys) have likely never seen any data on safety or longevity of the Scion models. All they have seen are douchebag white boys wearing baggy jeans and backwards baseball caps driving shitty cars around with their buzzy stereos cranked up to 11 to assault everyone's senses with how cool they aren't. That, coupled with the low prices, implies a lack of quality. The perception is that Scion was junk.

At least they will be cheap in the near future hopefully. I really want a manual first gen xB.

[EnoOnraefi]

Originally Posted by Doubletap

With the FRS/86 I think it's OK to re-badge it to a Toyota, as the rest of the world got it as such. It's not pretentious because the badge isn't making it out to be another car. It's no worse than rebadging a Honda Fit to a Jazz or a Lexus IS to an Altezza.


Pretentious rebadging is putting an M badge, AMG etc. or a badge that never belonged to the car, at all, in any market.


Just my 2 cents.

Aw, I was gonna rebadge mine as a Lexus...