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Irace86.2.0 · 06-23-2022, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I agree with everything you just said. But we're not there yet. Is that battery remotely close to being put into an affordable car? (no). And if governments really gave 2 craps about improving things they'd do a top down approach. Energy generation, not how it's consumed by end users.

Yeah, I get the objections, but I don’t think anyone expects or expected that we would transition perfectly from unsustainable to sustainable transportation overnight. My point is we are on a path to sustainability.

It’ll probably happen simultaneously. We don’t have the bandwidth for a whole lot of energy surplus. On top of that, they may be modeling a pull versus a push method of production, if you are familiar with that retail expression.

Swift · 06-24-2022, 03:05 PM

Thank god for SEMA getting legislation passed to allow niche manufacturers to build low quanity turn key cars. Get a new body 70's camaro and put in a nice motor and tune it for high mileage on a street tune while sporting a catalytic convertor...might actually be less environmental impact.

Waiting on better battery cell development etc, but this all should have happened 30yrs ago.

Arthur-A · 06-24-2022, 10:16 PM

So much sustainable

soundman98 · 06-24-2022, 10:36 PM

honestly, the worst part of ev stuff is the chargers.

starting to get asked to pre-wire remodels for ev chargers. nissan is in the front. audi, gm, and ford is drivers side front fender. tesla is rear drivers.

so they say they want a ev charger in the garage. the next 2 questions are "do you pull into the garage, or back in? and, what brand?

Irace86.2.0 · 06-25-2022, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Arthur-A

So much sustainable

It makes sense. Peak demand for the grid hits between 4pm-9pm when people are using AC while cooking, doing laundry and watching TV. The majority of EV charging happens during the day during working hours or after 9pm. There will be more peak demand as more EVs come online, but EVs are more likely to flatten the duck curve by utilizing solar during the day or during off-peak hours like during the middle of the night.

A Tesla Model 3 will charge at 30-47 mph depending on the model and amps to the level 2 charger, so this means the average person would charge for an hour with average daily use. Unless someone needs a full recharge, which is far from the daily average, there won’t be a lot of charging needed by the individual, which means the car can be programmed to charge itself during the day or during the middle of the night when costs are cheapest and demand is low. This already is the case.

Arthur-A · 06-25-2022, 03:10 AM

Screw this ev shit.

soundman98 · 06-25-2022, 11:03 AM

i'm plugging it in when i get home...

Dadhawk · 06-25-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

honestly, the worst part of ev stuff is the chargers.

Every charger I've seen has a long enough reach it doesn't matter which way you pull in your garage. Are you seeing it differently?

Dadhawk · 06-25-2022, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

There will be more peak demand as more EVs come online, but EVs are more likely to flatten the duck curve by utilizing solar during the day or during off-peak hours like during the middle of the night.

I think a lot of folks don't realize that even if you car is plugged in, you can program when it charges. Plug in when you get home, but tell the car not to charge until 1am until 6am.

Tcoat · 06-25-2022, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Every charger I've seen has a long enough reach it doesn't matter which way you pull in your garage. Are you seeing it differently?

Looks like the normal length for cables is 15 to 25 feet so unless you are planning on charging a 1972 Buick there should be loads to reach any car.

Captain Snooze · 06-26-2022, 03:31 AM

Convert this to an EV and it would power itself.

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Dadhawk · 06-26-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Looks like the normal length for cables is 15 to 25 feet so unless you are planning on charging a 1972 Buick there should be loads to reach any car.

The Buick Electra and Wildcat are heading back as EVs. Now if they would just bring back the Pontiac Trans Am. An Electric Chicken logo just seems perfect for this.

Tcoat · 06-26-2022, 02:29 PM

ZDan · 06-26-2022, 03:03 PM

This is pretty badass:

06-24-2022, 03:05 PM	#828
Swift I just Drive. Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: in the womb still Location: WI/MN Posts: 299 Thanks: 0 Thanked 116 Times in 86 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thank god for SEMA getting legislation passed to allow niche manufacturers to build low quanity turn key cars. Get a new body 70's camaro and put in a nice motor and tune it for high mileage on a street tune while sporting a catalytic convertor...might actually be less environmental impact. Waiting on better battery cell development etc, but this all should have happened 30yrs ago. __________________ -Waiting patiently for the right FT-86... -92' Acura Legend 5spd coupe twin turbo project

06-24-2022, 10:36 PM	#830
soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,673 Times in 6,781 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	honestly, the worst part of ev stuff is the chargers. starting to get asked to pre-wire remodels for ev chargers. nissan is in the front. audi, gm, and ford is drivers side front fender. tesla is rear drivers. so they say they want a ev charger in the garage. the next 2 questions are "do you pull into the garage, or back in? and, what brand? __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

06-25-2022, 11:03 AM	#833
soundman98 ProCrastinationConsultant Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: '14 Ranger, '18 Tacoma 4Dr LB Location: chicago-ish Posts: 11,330 Thanks: 35,240 Thanked 13,673 Times in 6,781 Posts Mentioned: 98 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i'm plugging it in when i get home... __________________ "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time"

06-26-2022, 03:31 AM	#837
Captain Snooze Because compromise ® Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Red Herring Location: australia Posts: 7,723 Thanks: 3,993 Thanked 9,346 Times in 4,127 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Convert this to an EV and it would power itself. __________________ My car is completely stock except for all the mods.

06-26-2022, 02:29 PM	#839
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06-24-2022, 10:16 PM	#829
Arthur-A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Drives: 2020 BRZ/86, 2020 BMW 330i Location: PNW, USA Posts: 292 Thanks: 196 Thanked 172 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So much sustainable

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Arthur-A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Drives: 2020 BRZ/86, 2020 BMW 330i Location: PNW, USA Posts: 292 Thanks: 196 Thanked 172 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Screw this ev shit.

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ZDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: '23 BRZ Location: Providence, RI Posts: 4,584 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,891 Times in 2,032 Posts Mentioned: 85 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is pretty badass:

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