Recall service question - what other maintenance/repair work to do at same time?

[fiveoneoh]

I know, I'm terrible. This question has been answered before, and here I am posting it again. I know there was a post mentioning the following items, but is there anything else I should have done while my car is having the valve spring recall done?



1. Spark plugs (the dealer should charge for parts only, not labor)
2. Timing belt - should I get this changed? I have 35K on the car

[finch1750]

Timing belts last way longer than 35k. But besides the car has a timing chain. It isnt a service item

[TommyW]

Clutch just to be safe. They can last a long time or they can last a short time. If yours is a 50k one then you’ll be pulling things apart again. I was at 40 and had it done.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Timing belts last way longer than 35k. But besides the car has a timing chain. It isnt a service item

+1
It's inspect and replace the serpentine/accessory belt when it begins to deteriorate or when it starts making noise. Mine was starting to show it's age (light squealing based on weather like a cold morning, some cracks upon removal) at ~85k miles/7 years. And it's relatively trivial to pull it out with the car fully assembled, remove intake, a couple plastic shields, release tension remove belt, install new, check torques and reassemble. Real unnecessary to throw it into the valve spring recall service.

OP, assuming this is the valve spring recall on early cars you should at a minimum replace the throwout bearing with the updated part since it starts dying in the 60k-80k range as a known issue. Should be a max of $40 for the part and an hours worth of labor.

Personally it's too early to do spark plugs or clutch given your low mileage I'd wait for 60k to roll around but doing it now and selling it before the next 60k comes around (when car has ~95k on the clock) will save you a few hundred bucks.

[fiveoneoh]

Thanks, I meant serpentine belt and some how wrote timing belt. It was late last night. I also thought the owner's manual said to change spark plugs at 30K (I could be wrong, just going from memory here). I feel like there were other parts that could be inspected and/or replaced while the engine is gutted. I'll definitely check out the throwout bearing Is there any way to inspect the clutch first and only replace it if it looks worn?

Originally Posted by strat61caster

+1
It's inspect and replace the serpentine/accessory belt when it begins to deteriorate or when it starts making noise. Mine was starting to show it's age (light squealing based on weather like a cold morning, some cracks upon removal) at ~85k miles/7 years. And it's relatively trivial to pull it out with the car fully assembled, remove intake, a couple plastic shields, release tension remove belt, install new, check torques and reassemble. Real unnecessary to throw it into the valve spring recall service.

OP, assuming this is the valve spring recall on early cars you should at a minimum replace the throwout bearing with the updated part since it starts dying in the 60k-80k range as a known issue. Should be a max of $40 for the part and an hours worth of labor.

Personally it's too early to do spark plugs or clutch given your low mileage I'd wait for 60k to roll around but doing it now and selling it before the next 60k comes around (when car has ~95k on the clock) will save you a few hundred bucks.

[soundman98]

the brake fluid is supposed to be flushed every 30k miles.
https://www.openbay.com/maintenance/2014-scion-fr-s
Conventional oil change(Every)7,500 miles
Tire Rotation(Every)7,500 miles
Cabin air filter (Replace)(Every)15,000 miles
Brake fluid (Change)(Every)30,000 miles
Air filter (Replace)(Every)30,000 miles
Spark plugs (Replace)(Every)60,000 miles
Automatic transmission fluid (Change)(Every)60,000 miles
Coolant (Flush/replace)(Every)75,000 miles
Fuel filter (Replace)(Every)75,000 miles

[fiveoneoh]

OK, one more question about this. the dealer is saying to get the oil changed while they're doing it, but I just changed the oil literally not two weeks ago.


Couldn't they just top it off to replace the residual oil that was in the engine?


Are they going to be taking the pan out too? Could the oil get contaminated while the engine is out?

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by soundman98

the brake fluid is supposed to be flushed every 30k miles.
https://www.openbay.com/maintenance/2014-scion-fr-s
Conventional oil change(Every)7,500 miles
Tire Rotation(Every)7,500 miles
Cabin air filter (Replace)(Every)15,000 miles
Brake fluid (Change)(Every)30,000 miles
Air filter (Replace)(Every)30,000 miles
Spark plugs (Replace)(Every)60,000 miles
Automatic transmission fluid (Change)(Every)60,000 miles
Coolant (Flush/replace)(Every)75,000 miles
Fuel filter (Replace)(Every)75,000 miles

Coolant is 137.5k miles the first time. Then every 75k miles after that actually

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by fiveoneoh

OK, one more question about this. the dealer is saying to get the oil changed while they're doing it, but I just changed the oil literally not two weeks ago.


Couldn't they just top it off to replace the residual oil that was in the engine?


Are they going to be taking the pan out too? Could the oil get contaminated while the engine is out?

Yes they can reuse the oil;
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...5&postcount=19

I do believe the pan gets removed.

The biggest risk is contamination from a sloppy sealant job, any contaminates in the oil from lazy procedures should be caught by the oil filter before damage is done.

[dagle]

Originally Posted by TommyW

Clutch just to be safe. They can last a long time or they can last a short time. If yours is a 50k one then you’ll be pulling things apart again. I was at 40 and had it done.

+1, the cost of the clutch is small compared to the labor of in/out. if you don't want to pay the cost now (if you haven't already), the minimum you should do is replace the pilot bearing and throw-out bearing (less than 50$ in parts)