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11-20-2020, 03:45 PM | #2509 | |
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Sorry. You're right. I don't have nearly as much experience in the automotive industry as you. This car has been my daily driver for when I go to school for some time and I mainly come here to check the classifieds. Like I said earlier, that's just the impression I got from your posts whenever there'd be info or some random news article, I'd always see you reminding people about how the car's never gonna get released anyway or if it was, it was gonna be worse off and that we should probably just give up because of what ichi said. At the time, it felt less like you were trying to combat misinformation, and more like a way for someone to stroke their ego. I think it was just frustrating because people were trying to be excited for the car even if the articles were just rumor mills. If you acknowledge that the car has some good things about it as well (I'm not talking from a stylistic point because that's completely subjective), then I'm willing to admit if I'm wrong there. I'll leave it at that. |
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There had been 0 confirmed ANYTHING about the 2nd gens for pretty much the entire time up until its reveal, other than its in development and a collab with subaru again. Dont want to expect a 300hp tubo car but revealed to be a 228hp N/A car and get all pissy cuz they didnt deliver to your expectations. |
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11-20-2020, 04:33 PM | #2511 | |
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Still, im pretty sure most people were aware that none of it was confirmed. if they wanted to get hype over some dumb article, let them do it. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk |
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Yes I have vehemently and consistently attack the clickbait's and their predictions. In the end I have been 100% vindicated because even their latest "leaked details" were not correct. The "info" coming out was not info at all it was fiction. The car is not built on the Toyota platform, does not have 260 nor 217HP, Does not look even close to their "official renders" (until the camoed ones showed up and they changed everything), etc, etc. Yes there was a period where the discussion headed towards them not making it at al. I wasn't yelling doom and gloom as you seem to think but speculating that they may not based upon industry indicator at that particular point in time. It was a very real risk and needed to be considered. Don't believe I ever said "they are not making it" and the discussion was in concern not negativity. I didn't say "give up" I said that from what ichi said (he is actually a reliable source) anybody that liked what there was should get one. I did exactly that and I am completely and totally happy that I did. I, me, myself, am just not interested in this new factory riced version and will not be buying. At no point did I tell anybody else they should feel the same. I have no need to "stroke my ego" on the internet and the discussion involved many others not just me. People should indeed be excited for the car but they need to be excited for reality as well not some fictional thing that are made up to get clicks. I have already listed the good things of this new car many many times if you had bothered to read them or venture beyond this one thread and follow some of the other discussions. There are also things that may not be great and they will get discussed as well. I don't give a rat's ass if you admit you ware wrong or not but at least try to get some facts before you start flinging insults at people.
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11-20-2020, 05:14 PM | #2513 | |
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If you read between the lines of what some people say that oppose those news articles, their message is there. It's easier to cling to the negative than it is the positive.
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We had loads of good discussions on what we would like to see, what was possible and what was not. The objection is things such "CONFIRMED 300HP BUILT ON TOYOTA PLATFORM FOR $22,000". That is not discussion nor speculation that is pure unadulterated bullshit. Also some of the speculations such as when it was at risk are as legit as speculating that all is rosy. It is funny that speculating it will be a 300HP supercar killer is fine but speculating that they could drop the whole thing is taboo. It is not a discussion if everybody just holds hands and agrees on every possible subject. It is just a circle jerk at that point.
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Discussion and debate is totally fine, even having your own speculation, but where things get messy is using bogus news articles as fact. This is most of what @Tcoat is always trying to combat (as I speak on his behalf), but many people are hellbent on believing those articles. To date so many of them have been disproven it's comical. If people were to simply discuss the possibility of having 217hp for example, it would be a lot different than people actually believing it was going to have 217hp.
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It's interesting how my opinion on the styling has changed. When I first saw it I loved the back, thought the front was ugly, and hated the side skirts.
Now, I think the back is ok, love the front, and still hate the side skirts. I still like the interior on the 1st gen more. As long as that digital dash has little/no "glow" when it is dark out, I'll be fine. I'm impressed with the black-level on my GTI's screens, although I still wish I could turn them off. I'm looking forward to seeing one in real life. I'll consider buying one when the performance pack and/or tS is available. Hopefully the GR86 is more universally liked, so styling isn't someone's only reason for not buying one of these.
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