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Currently the Tesla Cybertruck is a lot cheaper than the HUMMER, and some of it could be the features in the HUMMER, but I don't know if GM could match the price of the Tesla making the same car without a Gigafactory to produce batteries at volume to reduce the price per kWh. Moreover, the HUMMER may support fast charging, but it could be harder to find a fast charger in your area, so someone will need to consider that.
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I think the Cybertruck would be more a direct competitor to a Silverado or F150 EV anyway, vs the Hummer which is more a luxury offroad capable status symbol vehicle. I know where my money would go anyway.
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The original HUMMER H1 was essentially a civilian version of the Humvee. It was bad ass and expensive--often costing over $100k in the early 2000's. The H2 and H3 that followed were dramatically cheaper and basically large/mid-sized truck/SUVs, which were branded as luxury, but were essentially just larger and had more features, but aren't trying to be a Mercedes G-Wagon in luxury. The H3 wasn't even large or expensive at $33k starting in 2010. https://www.thecarconnection.com/car...hummer_h2_2003 H1 Interior H2 Interior H3 Interior Quote:
In terms of features, we don't fully know what the Cybertruck will have, so I am hesitant to compare, but there is a significant difference in price, so you have to ask yourself what are you getting for $80k with the HUMMER that you aren't getting on the $40k Cybertruck to justify twice the price? The top Cybertruck says 500+ miles of range for $70k, and it says 350+ miles of range on the top HUMMER for $113k, so again, $43k difference in price with potentially far less range with features people may or may not use any more than bragging rights.
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Must be very tempting for manufacturers to introduce evs to the market. Engine plants are expensive as hell. They're here to stay, like it or not.
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I'm biased though because I wouldn't drive a Cybertruck if you gave it to me. I dislike the looks of it that much. It could be $10,000 and I'd still rather have the Hummer or the Rivian. The way what I drive looks matters to me.
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The inside is part of the problem. It isn't that it's not functional, it has zero functionality or character.
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The only reason the HUMMER can sell their vehicle at such a premium over the Tesla is because the HUMMER brand typically sells more (based on size and standard features) and because there isn't any competition except the Cybertruck. We will see if they adjust the price or if it sells at that price. While the HUMMER isn't a conventional SUV/truck, it is by far more conventional than the Cybertruck, so that could give it market edge or justify the price to potential buyers, yet they are both extremely large and unique enough that perhaps both would have a similar demographic. The biggest advantage Ford has over Tesla and GM is the tax credit. Cybertruck dimensions: 231.7''L x 79.8''W x 75''H and 149.9'' wheelbase HUMMER EV dimensions: 216.8''L x 86.7''W x 81.1''H and 135.6'' wheelbase
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What about the Bolt and the Model 3? Pretty sure the Bolt is less, but haven't done the configurations.
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--500+ miles of range --AWD from 3 motors (1 front x 2 rear) --0-60 in less than 3 seconds --Top trim amenities might follow the Tesla Model 3/Y differences between RWD and AWD/Performance models shown below. I wouldn't expect much differences besides those and maybe wheels, brakes and other basics. For a $80k HUMMER EV you seem to get: --250+ miles of range --AWD from 2 motors (1 front x 1 rear) --0-60 is slower --Trim is the base trim seen above. The base HUMMER will have features the Cybertruck doesn't and vice versa. For instance, I doubt the HUMMER will feature body panels, or glass, as strong at the Cybertruck. The adaptive air suspension on the HUMMER isn't available on the base trim, but it is available on the Cybertruck on at minimum the top trim. The question is what is someone paying an extra $10k for when buying a base HUMMER over a top trim Cypertruck when they are obviously getting a lot less of the important stuff?
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The Model 3 is a more premium, faster and cheaper Bolt per this article. There are other benefits that come with owning a Tesla like OTA updates, better MMI, using the phone app to do all sorts of things, Supercharger network access, etc. I don't really think the Bolt is close.
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In the end, "the important stuff" varies by individual. If I had to pick between the two, I'm taking the Hummer because: * more Standard truck configuration * removable roof panels (beach buggy, beach buggy) * better dealer support (or at least more locations) * better interior layout (again opinion) * Don't need bullet-proof glass but I'm ultimately not going to pick between the two or likely to buy either (at least not new), so my opinion is just that, my opinion.
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