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Old 04-16-2021, 10:41 AM   #15
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Tein flex Z also come with camber plates and are around $800 a set if you are looking for a bargain.
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there really is only 2 possibility IMO

camber bolts and swapping the oe crash bolt will give -2 to -2.3 front camber and while it isn't ideal, it is more than enough camber not to screw tires up and will cost a few bucks only. You can actually get very much thread temperatures with this spec and the right pressure, driving and track. An advantage of OE coils is keeping the rear camber low and keeping good rotation, hence not needing rear LCA. I ran this setup a couple years and it is a lot of fun and great for learning. You cannot lower without rear LCA for any track duties as the rear camber curve is way too aggresive and the car will loose all of its playfullness. If you get coils, get rear LCA to dial out some camber; rear cambers kills this car. Also, camber plates are a liability and not worth it; its either the low buck camber bolt or full coilover, do not waste time nor cash on camber plates individually.

As suggested, getting Tein Flex w camber plates and rear LCA is great, but totally unnecessary at this point; though it is much smarter than any intermediary.
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there really is only 2 possibility IMO

camber bolts and swapping the oe crash bolt will give -2 to -2.3 front camber and while it isn't ideal, it is more than enough camber not to screw tires up and will cost a few bucks only. You can actually get very much thread temperatures with this spec and the right pressure, driving and track. An advantage of OE coils is keeping the rear camber low and keeping good rotation, hence not needing rear LCA. I ran this setup a couple years and it is a lot of fun and great for learning. You cannot lower without rear LCA for any track duties as the rear camber curve is way too aggresive and the car will loose all of its playfullness. If you get coils, get rear LCA to dial out some camber; rear cambers kills this car. Also, camber plates are a liability and not worth it; its either the low buck camber bolt or full coilover, do not waste time nor cash on camber plates individually.

As suggested, getting Tein Flex w camber plates and rear LCA is great, but totally unnecessary at this point; though it is much smarter than any intermediary.
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Tein flex Z also come with camber plates and are around $800 a set if you are looking for a bargain.
Spend more and do it right. The OEM dampers are pretty darn good. Lowering springs, peddler top hats, 1 crash bolt and some rear LCA can get you a pretty good setup for cheap without reading the bank.

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An advantage of OE coils is keeping the rear camber low and keeping good rotation, hence not needing rear LCA.
If you're lowering the car and tracking it, you probably don't need aftermarket LCAs. I'm lowered 1.25", running -3.5 to -3.9 degrees front, rears are at -2.8 from lowering. Works great at the track.

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You cannot lower without rear LCA for any track duties as the rear camber curve is way too aggresive and the car will loose all of its playfullness. If you get coils, get rear LCA to dial out some camber; rear cambers kills this car.
B.s. If you're tracking hard you want some rear camber as well as up front. It doesn't "kill" the car, I love dailying mine and tracking it, most fun car I've owned overall.

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Also, camber plates are a liability and not worth it; its either the low buck camber bolt or full coilover, do not waste time nor cash on camber plates individually.
I'm running Raceseng camber plates up front to get all the camber I need there. While running them with lowering springs and stock struts did not work out that great (not enough strut bump travel) , current setup with Bilstein B8s is working out great, street and track.
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Spend more and do it right. The OEM dampers are pretty darn good. Lowering springs, peddler top hats, 1 crash bolt and some rear LCA can get you a pretty good setup for cheap without reading the bank.

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You cannot lower without rear LCA for any track duties as the rear camber curve is way too aggresive and the car will loose all of its playfullness.
This likely has more to do with people's choice in spring rates than rear camber.
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Its funny how some people think spending a lot of money is what it takes to go fast.
I meant if you going to buy coils, spend a bit more than 800$ unless your looking mostly street.
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