Might want to avoid these guys *NorthernSpeed*

[Jordanwolf]

Probably won't ever go in a group with these guys, just seems like a bad organization as well as bad community behind them.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33607/...s-punches-fire

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...orsports_park/

[soundman98]

the comments paint a little clearer picture on the thedrive.

basically the pm run schedule is cheaper, it brings out the moronic drivers.

for the same reason, i tend to prefer to use the tollway whenever possible. less shenanigans than the free expressway. always.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by soundman98

the comments paint a little clearer picture on the thedrive.

basically the pm run schedule is cheaper, it brings out the moronic drivers.

for the same reason, i tend to prefer to use the tollway whenever possible. less shenanigans than the free expressway. always.

This is kinda why I like the older crowd when it comes to track days. People with some serious experience, even if it requires more money.

But with this example, there is a combination of things going on here.. daddy's money and a really bad community of young adults who think they are better than they actually are.

[Westen86]

PS, If youre not subscribed to Jackie Dings Youtube, you should. He has good content.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Probably won't ever go in a group with these guys, just seems like a bad organization as well as bad community behind them.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/33607/...s-punches-fire

https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/commen...orsports_park/

Disclaimer: I've been hired through OTA to time for Northern Speed events and did in fact work yesterday's race which ran incident free. Dov Arnoff from NV Auto who is also the track manager for TMP made sure of it. NV Auto is also a sponsor for Northern Speed.

Just to be clear, the guys who were the idiots at TMP on May 20th were NOT part of the Northern Star management team nor do they represent Northern Star.

They were simply some of the people who signed up for them. So I think it's unfair to say to avoid Northern Star because of these idiots who made track days look so horrible for the rest of us. This could be said for anyone part of CSCS or OTA doing dumb shit and then saying CSCS or OTA is bad. Just trying to be fair.

[wbradley]

I can attest to the fact that these TMP events attract some immature babies.

In fact, last event I was at, a 20-something taunted me to "go home".

I think these fucktards use the F N' F franchise to learn their humanity.


I feel safer just driving on the streets.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Frost

Disclaimer: I've been hired through OTA to time for Northern Speed events and did in fact work yesterday's race which ran incident free. Dov Arnoff from NV Auto who is also the track manager for TMP made sure of it. NV Auto is also a sponsor for Northern Speed.

Just to be clear, the guys who were the idiots at TMP on May 20th were NOT part of the Northern Star management team nor do they represent Northern Star.

They were simply some of the people who signed up for them. So I think it's unfair to say to avoid Northern Star because of these idiots who made track days look so horrible for the rest of us. This could be said for anyone part of CSCS or OTA doing dumb shit and then saying CSCS or OTA is bad. Just trying to be fair.

My question was why was it allowed to even get as far as it did. One on track collision should warrant a lock down of the track and finding out what happened. No?

In addition to the above, I did some reading up on them and it seems like they segregate themselves as an organization for a specific community. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have incidents like these, it makes both the organizer and the community behind them look sketchy as hell.

I would never want to be a on track with a clique of assholes with bottomless wallets and egos going beyond the sun... The guys who caused a lot of the drama aren't apparently banned either, they got a refund and said they couldn't go to one day or something.

Why would I ever want to go to a Northern Speed event knowing that some of the people that caused this could be present.

[wbradley]

^^ I don't know but my last experience left me with a bad taste. It's not necessarily the organizer, it's the people that pay and show up. And there are cliques, not necessarily Asian. It's a kiddy scene. Better to just ignore unless there are infractions. I guess a man of my maturity should show up in something a few levels above these rice racers and just pretend to be hard of hearing/have attention deficit issues. Beating them on their own level is too much fo them to handle.

[pushrod]

The organizers are responsible for dealing with the conduct of the participants. If there are fistfights and twisted metal, it's safe to say that the inmates are running the asylum.

I've been to over 20 track days, never had a single problem.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by pushrod

The organizers are responsible for dealing with the conduct of the participants. If there are fistfights and twisted metal, it's safe to say that the inmates are running the asylum.

I've been to over 20 track days, never had a single problem.

I was considering doing some track days this year. These events have firmly convinced me that I want nothing to do with that scene and will just stick to autox. At least if an ego flares up there, cars are parked.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Cole

I was considering doing some track days this year. These events have firmly convinced me that I want nothing to do with that scene and will just stick to autox. At least if an ego flares up there, cars are parked.

I doubt this is the track scene though. This looks more like some kids driving around in daddy's car.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

I doubt this is the track scene though. This looks more like some kids driving around in daddy's car.

And that's fine and dandy, but the fact of the matter is that I have zero interest in being around any of this type of driver. I see enough of them on public roads as is.

Edit: not to mention the fact that the organizers don't seem to care at all about this behaviour happening.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Cole

And that's fine and dandy, but the fact of the matter is that I have zero interest in being around any of this type of driver. I see enough of them on public roads as is.

Edit: not to mention the fact that the organizers don't seem to care at all about this behaviour happening.

That's fair. The biggest red flag for me though is that I quite literally read they would refund these people and let them come again in the future.....

[Jordanwolf]

doh, this whole time I have been saying "Northern star", it's actually Northern Speed.