follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-06-2023, 11:35 AM   #645
alex87f
Meow
 
alex87f's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Drives: GT86 (now sold)
Location: France
Posts: 543
Thanks: 325
Thanked 453 Times in 240 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquachulator View Post
Here comes the vehicular DLC........
I just read a post on a French forum regarding recent Audis. Want GPS? That'll be 750 a year. Radar cruise control? Another 4-500. Auto high-beams? Another 50.

You may be able to option those the "usual way" at purchase. Not sure though.
alex87f is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 12:32 PM   #646
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,905
Thanks: 39,092
Thanked 25,129 Times in 11,462 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex87f View Post
I just read a post on a French forum regarding recent Audis. Want GPS? That'll be 750 a year. Radar cruise control? Another 4-500. Auto high-beams? Another 50.

You may be able to option those the "usual way" at purchase. Not sure though.
Several car companies are playing with subscription based services, particularly with things that require connectivity or updating (mapping, etc). Auto high beams is a little ridiculous however.

Most of these are not available at time of purchase for a one-time fee, although may be included for a short trial period.

GM does this with OnStar, car hotspot and with SuperCruise.
__________________
Olivia 05/03/2012 - 01/06/2024. 231,146 glorious miles.

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 03:30 PM   #647
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex87f View Post
Until it meets another car..
It isn't the heaviest truck on the road. Its acceleration ability doesn't change anything about the force transfer. The speed is all that matters. It doesn't matter if it is accelerating to 70mph from 0mph faster than other vehicles, if it hits something at 70mph then it will be no different than any other large truck hitting something at highway speeds.

If I had a choice between a Cybertruck accelerating to highway speeds on an on-ramp or a similarly accelerating Carrera GT or a hooptie turbo'ed Civic, I would pick the Cybertruck knowing that it has the best chance of maintaining traction. I am more likely to see a $100k C8 losing control and crashing their car while trying to accelerate fast than a Cybertruck, so I don't get the point.

Its ability to stop will be no different than any truck its size at a given speed. The second the accelerator pedal is brought up, the acceleration drops to zero, the regen slows the truck, which is better than non-EVs, the brake pedal is applied, and so on.

For perspective, a Nissan Titan XD or Ram 2500 turbo diesel weigh 6,800lbs too, as do many trucks, as do the Ford Lightening and Rivian R1T, but why are we freaking out about Cybertruck like it is going to maul everyone on the road?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 04:03 PM   #648
Ultramaroon
extra what?
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 32,167
Thanks: 52,662
Thanked 36,916 Times in 19,150 Posts
Mentioned: 1111 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Self-centered fuckwits texting while driving massive, deadly road tanks because they're "safer."

#murica
__________________
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
alex87f (12-07-2023), Red-86 (12-11-2023), Spuds (12-06-2023), wbradley (12-06-2023), weederr33 (12-06-2023)
Old 12-06-2023, 04:09 PM   #649
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,905
Thanks: 39,092
Thanked 25,129 Times in 11,462 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
It isn't the heaviest truck on the road. Its acceleration ability doesn't change anything about the force transfer. The speed is all that matters. It doesn't matter if it is accelerating to 70mph from 0mph faster than other vehicles, if it hits something at 70mph then it will be no different than any other large truck hitting something at highway speeds.
I read he was talking about the mass, and not acceleration. As you say it doesn't really matter if the object is accelerating, but the speed at impact and the mass.

But, you are right, the CT does have many peers in the mass category. Not all trucks are that high a mass though. I suspect it's in the top 10% in mass.
__________________
Olivia 05/03/2012 - 01/06/2024. 231,146 glorious miles.

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 04:09 PM   #650
PulsarBeeerz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD
Location: Ohio
Posts: 939
Thanks: 681
Thanked 739 Times in 396 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I hope a stipend is paid for the all the Tesla PR apologetics.lol
PulsarBeeerz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to PulsarBeeerz For This Useful Post:
Red-86 (12-06-2023), ZDan (12-06-2023)
Old 12-06-2023, 04:49 PM   #651
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 04:52 PM   #652
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PulsarBeeerz View Post
I hope a stipend is paid for the all the Tesla PR apologetics.lol
Don't be so biased. If this was a new Porsche or Lamborghini then would you be hating? Would you have said the same about a Countach truck back in the day like Jason said on Hagerty? Probably.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 05:05 PM   #653
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
I read he was talking about the mass, and not acceleration. As you say it doesn't really matter if the object is accelerating, but the speed at impact and the mass.

But, you are right, the CT does have many peers in the mass category. Not all trucks are that high a mass though. I suspect it's in the top 10% in mass.
The quote that he highlighted was originally addressing a comment vbradley made (see below), so if Alex87f changed the context, it was vague, but I addressed both points nevertheless.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=637

Quote:
What is a reasonable and safe rate of acceleration for a truck on public roads?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Irace86.2.0 For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (12-06-2023)
Old 12-06-2023, 08:07 PM   #654
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
2:00 Munro asks about the "$25k Tesla":

--"We are quite far advanced in that work."
--"The revolution in manufacturing that will be represented by that car will blow people's minds."
--"It's a level of production technology that is far in advance of any automotive plant on earth."

__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*

Last edited by Irace86.2.0; 12-06-2023 at 09:44 PM.
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 08:33 PM   #655
Dadhawk
1st86 Driver!
 
Dadhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86)
Location: Powder Springs, GA
Posts: 19,905
Thanks: 39,092
Thanked 25,129 Times in 11,462 Posts
Mentioned: 182 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
29:30 Munro asks about the $25k Tesla:

--"We are quite far advanced in that work."
--"The revolution in manufacturing that will be represented by that car will blow people's minds."
--"It's a level of production technology that is far in advance of any automotive plant on earth."
Sounds to me like he plans to gigacast the entire car.
__________________
Olivia 05/03/2012 - 01/06/2024. 231,146 glorious miles.

Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S
Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark.
What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk".
Dadhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 08:57 PM   #656
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,377
Thanks: 4,555
Thanked 5,644 Times in 2,959 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultramaroon View Post
Self-centered fuckwits texting while driving massive, deadly road tanks because they're "safer."

#murica

If it's any consolation, where I currently live, the drivers are clueless NPCs who will run you over because they don't know they are supposed to stop at a stop sign. Regardless of whether they are on a phone or not. They are that stupid.
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to weederr33 For This Useful Post:
Spuds (12-06-2023), Ultramaroon (12-06-2023)
Old 12-06-2023, 09:39 PM   #657
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,807 Times in 3,300 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
Sounds to me like he plans to gigacast the entire car.
That is what I was thinking too. The question is how much?

Like right now I think there is a front and rear casting that get assembled separately, and then the shell comes onto those castings, and then the seats mounted directly to the battery and raise up to form the center, and then the doors, glass, hood, fenders, bumpers, etc are attached, so the question is, how far can they take the car? Could they do everything in the front and back in two castings including front and rear fenders and body, and then secure those together with the floor/battery? I feel like three pieces is more likely than two or one just because it would be easier to work on the interior pieces of the front and rear separately like they are doing now, but I could imagine losing the shell.

If they do then they may need to sand/finish the surface, or they could leave it raw for a textured surface. Maybe a textured surface will be a thing in the future where the car surface is patterned to look like leather, wood, metal, carbon fiber, or some design.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2023, 09:44 PM   #658
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,517
Thanks: 26,385
Thanked 12,541 Times in 6,211 Posts
Mentioned: 87 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by weederr33 View Post
If it's any consolation, where I currently live, the drivers are clueless NPCs who will run you over because they don't know they are supposed to stop at a stop sign. Regardless of whether they are on a phone or not. They are that stupid.
Man, and I thought the idiots by me not knowing how a rotary works were bad.
__________________
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a model is worth ten thousand pictures.
Also: "Build Thread"
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (12-07-2023), Ultramaroon (12-06-2023)
 
Reply

Tags
knowitallsavingtheworld, longwindedcocksuckers

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Which truck? EAGLE5 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 35 11-18-2014 02:49 AM
Help me help my mom buy a truck bdanisi Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 18 11-10-2013 12:45 AM
UPS Truck vs. My new FR-S Bullschmidt91 Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 99 03-26-2013 09:43 PM
GBS Premium 6MT Available, just came off the truck... Opie BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 0 09-12-2012 03:53 PM
BMW M3 truck!?! RRnold Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 15 04-03-2011 04:47 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.