Subaru to Show BRZ Concept w/ Body at L.A. Show; More Details Emerge on BRZ and FR-S

[suprachica79]

Originally Posted by yayforaddison

Heres a little something I read this morning about that turbo 1.6 engine from Subaru for their STI cars (and a 2.0 turbo), and if you scroll to the bottom, they even show the plexiglass BRZ concept. Not sure if its been confirmed online here about the new turbo engines from Subaru, but I do know there were rumors going around about the BRZ being one of them to get it as an STI version. Makes those rumors sound more believable seeing how Subaru is switching up their engines for sure. This site just keeps my mind wondering more and more about the BRZ. First $27,000 260hp, now a possible hint back towards an STI as well...

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2011/9/2...oming-7704950/

Forgot to mention, they also said they will be moving the high mounted turbo under the engine. Maybe to keep a low center of gravity?

Interesting read for sure. I think you're on to something about mounting the turbo underneath the engine. They also may be doing it to free up some space, not that I think that is necessary, I'm still learning about these boxer engines, but I can't think of many other reasons to move the turbo other than for a lower CoG

[Dave-ROR]

What would people pay for an STI one? WRX to STI is about an 8k jump, so if this car comes out at 22-23K (which is realistic IMO), would you be willing to pay a similar price increase? 30-31k for a BRZ STI?

They've already said that the model will be out for a long time. It's obvious that a faster/better version will come out, but I seriously doubt they'll rush it. I'd suspect 3 years or so before we see that version show up at dealerships, otherwise they'll be done with the generation a lot sooner then it's been stated they want.

I'll buy the first one, and if the faster one a few years later seems worth it I'll dump the first one and get the new one. :shrug:

[SUB-FT86]

I think 7k increase is a just price for the BRZ Sti for the 2.0 t engine with 275hp/265tq with a sport package. Like 29k.

[chulooz]

I would think that they would have a very tough time on mounting a turbo below the engine (think Legacy) because of the very low positioning of the engine.

[Giccin]

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar

What he said. But I know he was talking about the JDM debate.

WoW why you no meet? Too busy with work for internet friends?

Man, all the cool people going to be there and stuffs. It might be worth it just to meet all you guys since this won't happen with the Tokyo announcement($2k hell no!). If it was Chicago it would be doable since that is within driving distance. I don't believe I can spring for a flight and hotel there. Not with needing to move and save up for a down payment.

Dooooooooo it. Even Ichi might be showing up. Lol

[Random_Art]

Originally Posted by chulooz

I would think that they would have a very tough time on mounting a turbo below the engine (think Legacy) because of the very low positioning of the engine.

I agree. With how low and far back this engine sits,



It seems that any a bottom mount turbo would be dragging on the ground.

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by Random_Art

I agree. With how low and far back this engine sits,



It seems that any a bottom mount turbo would be dragging on the ground.

But look at thatbig space for a top mounted turbo, or even a front mounted turbo like on the legacy GT turbos.

Besides there is not a whole lot of subaru owners to begin with running bottom mounted turbos. Most EJ255 and EJ257 engines run rear/top mounted turbos, or rear/bottom. But never directly below the engine. The offsetting the location of the turbo and im sure there wont be a problem with placement even with the engine sitting very low.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I like how you forgot what came after that quote.

I know it's USDM but that doesn't change the fact that this car won't come with the same features,engine,tranny etc. My RSX says 97% Japanese on it and I know it's not JDM also but It's not a totally different car. That's a better way to put it.

Side the steering wheel is on makes for a big difference.

Differences (besides driving side) between my (but not all) JDM Supra and my Canadian spec car:

Motor. The big one. 280 hp twin turbo 1JZGTE JDM, vs 232 hp single turbo 7MGTE.
Mirrors. Power folding ones on the JDM
Fenders. My JDM wasn't flared (a narrow body).
Interior. Factory Recaros. Plus rest of the cloth is different (JDM is much better woven stuff instead of the 80s/90s velour crap).
Brakes. No ABS on the JDM.
Climate control. Manual sliders on the JDM, auto on Canadian.
Gauges. Pure metric on JDM (Canadian has tiny MPH under the normal km/h on the speedo). Plus weirdness like a boost gauge that reads in mmHg instead of psi.
Stereo. JDM is Double DIN. Available factory Minidisc.
Diff. Torsen rear LSD on the JDM, clutch-pack on the Canadian.
Lights. Rear tail lights and center reflector are factory smoked/tinted.
Emissions. I have a dash warning light for a catalytic converter because the car had two O2 sensors (second was in or after the cat and got axed with a new exhaust).
Other. Whole lot more Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana on the labels.

LOTS of differences.

For some reason all this little stuff is coveted by the JDM crowd. Silliness.
Only the powertrain really matters, and they are less and less different these days.