ACE Header Independent Testing Results and Review - 199.6WHP on CA 91 Octane

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Jmonty

How is the Ace FP and Type A 350 with the stock catback as far as noise

Sounds like a$$. Greddy SP ELITE, INVIDIA Q300, Perrin resonated will work if you are wanting to keep the noise down.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by Jmonty

How is the Ace FP and Type A 350 with the stock catback as far as noise

MXP SP is a very good sounding exhaust too.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Jmonty

How is the Ace FP and Type A 350 with the stock catback as far as noise

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...64#post2617064

[Jmonty]

Originally Posted by Calum

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...64#post2617064

Thanks I have seen that post

[brzaapi]

Originally Posted by Jmonty

Thanks I have seen that post

....And what a good post it is for a youtube virgin.



I would say it is loud and obnoxious, but everyone already knows what i think.

CBE here i come. If my Q300 works quite well at changing the tone. My ACE FP might just go back on cause, ermm..... ....



........RacecaR.


But with my stock CBE, I am too much of a pansy to run the ACE FP.

[Bramick]

Talk to me about your oil pan heat wrap... @Hawk77FT

[Hawk77FT]

Originally Posted by Bramick

Talk to me about your oil pan heat wrap... @Hawk77FT

I had it since I had my Hks header. Left it on.

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[GT86meMR2]

I wasn't really serious about the uel i know Ace is al about performance and i'm quite Happy with my JDL uel but still really curious how a uel from Ace would Look Sound and perform :p

[churchx]

Hypothetical Ace's UEL might be slightly more effective due in general smooth bends/top velding, due at least half of cylinders having long enough runner for best powerband, but very probably it will be almost as expensive to make as normal EL. Ace's customers are prioritising best performance and are willing to pay premium to get it. UEL niche imho is for other customers, to whom subjective feel (from eg. sound) matters more then performance, hence will Ace's normal customers still justify high price of "not very best anymore" header? That looks like cutting sales of such header tenfold .. but it will still take as much time/efforts to design/test/setup manufacturing as ELs. Which may further increase it's price as not backed by economy of scale.

At the end, if you custom absolutely must have it and you are willing to pay very big price for one-off custom UEL, i guess you can make a deal with Ace to make you one (it probably won't have many prototypes and extensive track testing behind though). But i don't see much potential in it as another product in their lineup. Just something to brag about for having something unique one-off, not backing it by top performance.

P.S.
"Normal" UELs also have extra pro of usually fixing better torque dip vs "normal" ELs. So i might be too harsh on writing off most UEL buyers as form-over-function ones .. still, as dip is not an issue for Ace's headers, UELs don't have anymore such advantage. Just less performance in return for more preferable sound by customers' tastes.

[Reamer]

Finally got my ceramic coated B-350 installed and dyno'd. I also have the ACE front pipe installed with a stock catback and unless you like a LOT of rasp I would avoid the front pipe. Being no cats and unresonated I should have known that though. Having said that, the build quality of both parts is top notch and it put 179.5whp down on dyno dynamics, also called the "heartbreaker" dyno for how low it reads compared to others. The only other engine mod is a grimmspeed CAI. I have a JDL ultra quiet front pipe on the way and then shortly after I will get a catback. Thinking about going with Agency Power.

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[brzaapi]

I have been a little preoccupied with installing my JRZ coilovers, but while i had my car in the air. I decided to add SPL rear LCAs, they install super easy. And the adjustability is great and easy to get to once installed. Plus you can use regular wrenches and not super skinny spanners.

Anyways, I also installed an Invidia Q300. The car sounds great with my current setup.
ACE 421 B350, Invidia HFC FP and Invidia Q300 CBE

But, I am very tempted to put the ACE FP back on and see what sounds i get. I prefer quieter exhausts, or at least ones that are not obnoxious in low to mid rpm range. But, dare i say that the car could use some more volume.

As i said my main concern right now is fixing my coilovers, but I will come back and post some video/audio clips to show the ACE and Q300 off, with the HFC FP and the ACE catless FP. I think with this CBE the Ace front pipe may work fine. I will report back when i have more.

[Reamer]

Originally Posted by brzaapi

I have been a little preoccupied with installing my JRZ coilovers, but while i had my car in the air. I decided to add SPL rear LCAs, they install super easy. And the adjustability is great and easy to get to once installed. Plus you can use regular wrenches and not super skinny spanners.

Anyways, I also installed an Invidia Q300. The car sounds great with my current setup.
ACE 421 B350, Invidia HFC FP and Invidia Q300 CBE

But, I am very tempted to put the ACE FP back on and see what sounds i get. I prefer quieter exhausts, or at least ones that are not obnoxious in low to mid rpm range. But, dare i say that the car could use some more volume.

As i said my main concern right now is fixing my coilovers, but I will come back and post some video/audio clips to show the ACE and Q300 off, with the HFC FP and the ACE catless FP. I think with this CBE the Ace front pipe may work fine. I will report back when i have more.

You had the ACE FP on previously?

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[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by brzaapi

my JRZ coilovers,

That's what I'm saving up for at the moment.

[brzaapi]

Originally Posted by Reamer

You had the ACE FP on previously?

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Yes sir. A little earlier in this thread i posted some videos allowing everyone to hear the exhaust with the catless FP. It has the hollow angry bees sound, plus the stock muffler was falling apart and was getting louder on day to day basis.