How accurate is Torque program - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Riftur · 02-01-2016, 05:52 PM

How accurate is the Torque program? I did a 0-60 run in my totally stock 2013 FRS. Well I have cooper tires on the stock rims. I drive the AT cause my wife does not want to learn MT and might need to drive it in a emergency. ONLY IN AN EMERGENCY! lol So the time 0-60 for AT is supposed to be 6.8 or so. I did it in 6.0 sec which does not seem right considering the MT is said to be 6.2. Thoughts?

go_a_way1 · 02-01-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riftur

How accurate is the Torque program? I did a 0-60 run in my totally stock 2013 FRS. Well I have cooper tires on the stock rims. I drive the AT cause my wife does not want to learn MT and might need to drive it in a emergency. ONLY IN AN EMERGENCY! lol So the time 0-60 for AT is supposed to be 6.8 or so. I did it in 6.0 sec which does not seem right considering the MT is said to be 6.2. Thoughts?

Not very lol! I would say give or take 1 seconds maybe more.

GSpeed · 02-01-2016, 05:55 PM

Assuming it's using the phone's onboard GPS (can someone confirm?), those are usually 1 Hz, meaning they only update position/speed once a second. Anything between two readings is interpolated.

There's also a lot of other variables at play like temperature, surface conditions, etc. etc.

So in short, not very.

Riftur · 02-01-2016, 06:00 PM

Ok didnt think it was very accurate. lol, To bad. I just got my K&N drop in airfilter and wanted to see if there was any diffrence.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 02-01-2016, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GSpeed

Assuming it's using the phone's onboard GPS (can someone confirm?), those are usually 1 Hz, meaning they only update position/speed once a second. Anything between two readings is interpolated.

There's also a lot of other variables at play like temperature, surface conditions, etc. etc.

So in short, not very.

I believe you can choose in the settings whether or not the dials show obd ecu speed or GPS speed and can compare them. But in general torque is not accurate it tends to overestimate things like the virtual dyno feature is a horrible attempt

Also important note a K&N filter would no way yield a .8 second improvement if we're assuming a perfect environment and conditions (launch, tire temp etc) A maximum you'd get is 5 HP according to some dyno tests. I don't think that's near enough to shed .8 of second off an AT.
@Riftur

RichardsFRS · 02-01-2016, 06:16 PM

I don't think 6_2 is accurate for stick. I know Ive got to be faster. I say high 5s but I don't have stock primacy tires and all traction is on. Like you I think it's faster. I wonder what FI 86s are doing 0 to 60

I can get 60 pretty quick. Think I'll time it and see. I think if you shift in the upper rpms and you grab the ground, you should be lower than 6 2. Just my thoughts with no science to back it. Yet

Riftur · 02-01-2016, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I believe you can choose in the settings whether or not the dials show obd ecu speed or GPS speed and can compare them. But in general torque is not accurate it tends to overestimate things like there dyno feature is a horrible attempt

Also important note a K&N filter would no way yield a .8 second improvement if we're assuming a perfect environment and conditions (launch, tire temp etc) A maximum you'd get is 5 HP according to some dyno tests. I don't think that's near enough to shed .8 of second off an AT.
@Riftur

I havent added the K&N when I did the 0-60. I just added it right before I posted the thread. I was planning on doing a 0-60 on my way to work tomorrow.

Riftur · 02-01-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

I don't think 6_2 is accurate for stick. I know Ive got to be faster. I say high 5s but I don't have stock primacy tires and all traction is on. Like you I think it's faster. I wonder what FI 86s are doing 0 to 60

I can get 60 pretty quick. Think I'll time it and see. I think if you shift in the upper rpms and you grab the ground, you should be lower than 6 2. Just my thoughts with no science to back it. Yet

I am getting together with a buddy this weekend and I will have him time it on a watch. only problem with that is it adds another 160lbs in my car lol.

Tcoat · 02-01-2016, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

I don't think 6_2 is accurate for stick. I know Ive got to be faster. I say high 5s but I don't have stock primacy tires and all traction is on. Like you I think it's faster. I wonder what FI 86s are doing 0 to 60

I can get 60 pretty quick. Think I'll time it and see. I think if you shift in the upper rpms and you grab the ground, you should be lower than 6 2. Just my thoughts with no science to back it. Yet

I am not sure about doing much better than 6.2 even with tires. I also know that I could not tell if doing 6.2 or "high fives" just by sitting there driving.

ARTBRZ · 02-01-2016, 06:48 PM

Twerk program.....

http://wifflegif.com/gifs/542162-rub...sian-girls-gif

Not good at all.

Riftur · 02-01-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ARTBRZ

Twerk program.....

http://wifflegif.com/gifs/542162-rub...sian-girls-gif

Not good at all.

Actually thats way better than the program I use lol

cdq85 · 02-01-2016, 07:03 PM

if you're worried about a 0-60 time in an FR-S, you're gonna have a bad time.

Sarlacc · 02-01-2016, 07:04 PM

lol.

mav1178 · 02-01-2016, 07:17 PM

The program is only as accurate as the device being used to measure... in this case, your phone.

-alex

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GSpeed Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Location: Motorsport Ranch, TX Posts: 619 Thanks: 227 Thanked 1,181 Times in 362 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Assuming it's using the phone's onboard GPS (can someone confirm?), those are usually 1 Hz, meaning they only update position/speed once a second. Anything between two readings is interpolated. There's also a lot of other variables at play like temperature, surface conditions, etc. etc. So in short, not very.

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Riftur Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Florida Posts: 582 Thanks: 235 Thanked 176 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok didnt think it was very accurate. lol, To bad. I just got my K&N drop in airfilter and wanted to see if there was any diffrence.

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RichardsFRS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2013 Pearl White 6MT Location: Gainesville Ga Posts: 938 Thanks: 5 Thanked 356 Times in 246 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I don't think 6_2 is accurate for stick. I know Ive got to be faster. I say high 5s but I don't have stock primacy tires and all traction is on. Like you I think it's faster. I wonder what FI 86s are doing 0 to 60 I can get 60 pretty quick. Think I'll time it and see. I think if you shift in the upper rpms and you grab the ground, you should be lower than 6 2. Just my thoughts with no science to back it. Yet

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ARTBRZ Aloha! Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 350 Thanks: 121 Thanked 180 Times in 109 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Twerk program..... http://wifflegif.com/gifs/542162-rub...sian-girls-gif Not good at all.

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cdq85 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Greensburg, PA Posts: 249 Thanks: 107 Thanked 285 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	if you're worried about a 0-60 time in an FR-S, you're gonna have a bad time.

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	The program is only as accurate as the device being used to measure... in this case, your phone. -alex

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