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Old 05-24-2013, 08:26 PM   #1
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About to go get the TRD Exhaust, CAI & Air Filter. What to expect?

Well I've had my FRS for two glorious weeks now, and Im about to go and get my TRD exhaust, CAI, and air filter installed (due to the dealership forgetting to order the parts until days before the car arrived on rail..........)

I know there's threads here on the TRD parts that show the dyno gains and whatnot, Im aware of the search feature. But I dont think I've read one post about how noticeable the difference would be with the car going from stock, to all three upgrades installed, and how the car "feels" and how much of an upgrade to the sound there would be.

I've got the 7 year extended warranty, so there's nothing but TRD going in here, which is a but of a drag of course, but Im hoping to see a bit of gain in power, and a big upgrade to the sound department. Am I far off base?
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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so really its only 2 objects going in the car? the exhaust and cai. Most cai's will come with a air filter. and since you said all trd, then the trd cai will come with a super super big air filter. I have a brz and bought the same trd goodies also. exhaust will be here wensday, cant wait. But the cai is awesome. there is like a 20 page thread about it. all good positive reviews so far
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I hope they didn't order you the regular panel filter if you ordered the TRD intake (bigger airbox, straight inlet pipe)... the filter for the TRD intake is much bigger than stock.

As for gains, you'll be looking at about 10hp max with the intake and exhaust, you might feel it but you'll notice the sound more than the power probably.
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Just installed TRD CAI, light weight crank pulley + TRD cat back exhaust (last week). So far I noticed that the car pulls harder and the engine revs more freely. The interior is actually at the same noise level (if not lower) because you remove the sound tube. Highway cruising is a lot more quite, which is a great thing.
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Just had my TRD exhaust installed today. Love it! TRD intake will hopefully be in soon.
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Trd intake took me 30 minutes to install in the parking lot of a Fuddruckers. Order one on eBay and save the installation costs. All you need is an 8mm and 10mm socket. Plus a pair of pliers to release a a tiny circular clamp.
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I've got the 7 year extended warranty, so there's nothing but TRD going in here, which is a but of a drag of course, but Im hoping to see a bit of gain in power, and a big upgrade to the sound department. Am I far off base?

I have never listened to the TRD stuff for this car. What I can tell you to expect is to overpay for the name brand and get regular or less than regular performance gains.
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I have never heard or listen to the TRD stuff for this car. What I can tell you to expect is to overpay for the name brand and get regular or less than regular performance gains.
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so really its only 2 objects going in the car? the exhaust and cai. Most cai's will come with a air filter. and since you said all trd, then the trd cai will come with a super super big air filter. I have a brz and bought the same trd goodies also. exhaust will be here wensday, cant wait. But the cai is awesome. there is like a 20 page thread about it. all good positive reviews so far
I installed only the TRD CAI and others are claiming slight dyno gains. My experience is a more linear throttle response and smoother torque at lower RPMs. I was happy to see the sound tube gone; the TRD eliminates that while one now can hear real engine sounds. The exhaust should provide a bit more noise and a few more HP. TRD claims 8 to 10 for the combo. Don't expect dramatic HP gains. You will or should experience drivability gains. One more PLUS: it doesn't void your warranty and they're fifty state legal. No-ones bolt on stuff will give you more than a modest increase in HP. The hype is just noise.
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I have never listened to the TRD stuff for this car. What I can tell you to expect is to overpay for the name brand and get regular or less than regular performance gains.
Of course its to be expected that the TRD parts are not going to be as good as some of the other aftermarket parts, but you have to be the first to tell me I'll have "less than regular performance"... That cant possibly be true?

And money is of no concern really when it comes to aftermarket parts, it's my warranty that I'd like to preserve and so the extra money Im shelling out for TRD seems well worth it imo. Money might not be tight for me, but I certainly still believe in keeping my assets protected, so basically its like having my cake and eating it to in regards to having a brand new car with some aftermarket mods.
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Of course its to be expected that the TRD parts are not going to be as good as some of the other aftermarket parts, but you have to be the first to tell me I'll have "less than regular performance"... That cant possibly be true?

And money is of no concern really when it comes to aftermarket parts, it's my warranty that I'd like to preserve and so the extra money Im shelling out for TRD seems well worth it imo. Money might not be tight for me, but I certainly still believe in keeping my assets protected, so basically its like having my cake and eating it to in regards to having a brand new car with some aftermarket mods.
I totally respect your train of thought and I completely agree in the matter that you want to keep your full warranty. When I say less the regular performance, I am not pointing my fingers specifically at the FRS parts, but in general TRD parts and I'm not meaning your car will not work properly. What I mean is that when compared to other top performers, the amount of performance gains you get out of the parts usually is not one of the higher ones.
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I totally respect your train of thought and I completely agree in the matter that you want to keep your full warranty. When I say less the regular performance, I am not pointing my fingers specifically at the FRS parts, but in general TRD parts and I'm not meaning your car will not work properly. What I mean is that when compared to other top performers, the amount of performance gains you get out of the parts usually is not one of the higher ones.
Ah fair enough, and thats more or less what I expected. For myself I guess Im okay with performance for warranty trade off you get with TRD. And really, aside from a turbo, nothing is going drastically improve my performance, so the marginal difference between the aftermarket stuff doesn't bother me. Hoping TRD decides to release a turbo kit.
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Ah fair enough, and thats more or less what I expected. For myself I guess Im okay with performance for warranty trade off you get with TRD. And really, aside from a turbo, nothing is going drastically improve my performance, so the marginal difference between the aftermarket stuff doesn't bother me. Hoping TRD decides to release a turbo kit.
I think it's probable they will release down the line a SC more reachable to the average Joe than the one they already offer. I'm sorry I kind of derailed the thread, didn't mean to. Hope you enjoy your new mods!!
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I've got the 7 year extended warranty, so there's nothing but TRD going in here, which is a but of a drag of course, but Im hoping to see a bit of gain in power, and a big upgrade to the sound department. Am I far off base?
I have never listened to the TRD stuff for this car. What I can tell you to expect is to overpay for the name brand and get regular or less than regular performance gains.

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I totally respect your train of thought and I completely agree in the matter that you want to keep your full warranty. When I say less the regular performance, I am not pointing my fingers specifically at the FRS parts, but in general TRD parts and I'm not meaning your car will not work properly. What I mean is that when compared to other top performers, the amount of performance gains you get out of the parts usually is not one of the higher ones.
It sounds like you're backtracking. If the person stated from the onset that they are only going to use TRD parts; why even bring up the comparison to other parts and insinuate they're foolish to "overpay" for a lesser performance part? They asked a specific question, yet you state nothing constructive, without any experience with the aforementioned TRD FR-S parts, and slight the person on top of that. That sure as hell isn't respectful.

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To the OP; Motor Trend has a long term FR-S they update about once a month on their website and did installed both TRD pieces.

http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-scion...#axzz2Qed9YUf9

http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-scion...rs-367231.html

They show a 0.2 second decrease in quarter mile times and a one tenth decrease in 0-60 acceleration. Could just be the engine broken in, a cooler day, or a better driver. Taken from the article:

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Most of us weren’t expecting to see any performance increase from the mods, and some even thought that the car might actually be slower with the new TRD parts.
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