Which model year to look for?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by soundman98

that's what i love about the car! i can beat the snot out of it, even in front of the police station, and barely break any laws!

Honestly my biggest complaint about the LS swap. Turns out, once your car is fast, it's fast

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[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Honestly my biggest complaint about the LS swap. Turns out, once your car is fast, it's fast

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i once talked to someone that had been through 3 different built miata's. he had a similar sentiment. first was a flyin' miata full LS build. he was unhappy with the weight shift and just sorta felt useless as anything but a 1/4 mile machine. then an over-the-top turbo build, lag was an issue. the last one iirc, he did a small turbo, and just barely kissed the motor with a tune. enough to bump the power, but no serious gains...

power is addictive, but there's something to be had in enjoying being powerless!

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by soundman98

that's what i love about the car! i can beat the snot out of it, even in front of the police station, and barely break any laws!

Cos it's so slow? Lol

[Decep]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i suspect he's one of those drivers that get worried about revving it out all the way. i've met more than a few that try to drive the car like a v8, shifting at 3k rpm max, and then complain the cars a dog and has no power.

the people i've met that understand you've got to be bouncing off the rev limiter to make power are usually the one's that compliment the car the most.

more likely the other cars are automatics and when you're in a manual you need to be aggressive with the clutch and throttle to get going from a dig.

[Decep]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

Cos it's so slow? Lol

I mean, yeah. Compare it to something like my cousin's GT350 and first gear goes to like 60 mph, it's ridiculous on the street. Fun but everytime you have fun you're in license suspension territory.

[Balassovec]

Definitely take the 2014-2015 issue

[Willpower]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

Cos it's so slow? Lol

One dimensional and apparently clueless. Lol

This is beating a dead horse. The car isn’t slow. At all. It’s a matter of perspective, setting, and choosing the right tool for what the intended need or desire is. In its element, the one it was designed for, the BRZ/86 is a fast car if driven well. Are there faster cars? Yes, usually for quite a bit more money. Does that make the BRZ/86 “slow”? No. Think of this another way. If you’ve got an old amp that needs servicing and you need to access parts held in place with Phillips head screws, you can get in it with a sledgehammer if you want, but it’d be better to just find the right screwdriver to access it, so you don’t destroy it in the process of trying to fix it, right?
Same here. If you want a fun, lightweight corner carver that is economical and doesn’t break you with consumables, the BRZ is a great car for that job. In fact, it outperforms a Challenger Hellcat in every way if that is your criteria. If you want a heavy, feel every pound pavement ripping quarter mile beast, fine, go for the Hellcat. But neither car makes the other obsolete just because. It all depends on what is wanted. The people who come on here criticizing the BRZ/86/FRS for being “slow” are just showing their ignorance on the subject matter of performance cars in general.

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by Willpower

One dimensional and apparently clueless. Lol

This is beating a dead horse. The car isn’t slow. At all. It’s a matter of perspective, setting, and choosing the right tool for what the intended need or desire is. In its element, the one it was designed for, the BRZ/86 is a fast car if driven well. Are there faster cars? Yes, usually for quite a bit more money. Does that make the BRZ/86 “slow”? No. Think of this another way. If you’ve got an old amp that needs servicing and you need to access parts held in place with Phillips head screws, you can get in it with a sledgehammer if you want, but it’d be better to just find the right screwdriver to access it, so you don’t destroy it in the process of trying to fix it, right?
Same here. If you want a fun, lightweight corner carver that is economical and doesn’t break you with consumables, the BRZ is a great car for that job. In fact, it outperforms a Challenger Hellcat in every way if that is your criteria. If you want a heavy, feel every pound pavement ripping quarter mile beast, fine, go for the Hellcat. But neither car makes the other obsolete just because. It all depends on what is wanted. The people who come on here criticizing the BRZ/86/FRS for being “slow” are just showing their ignorance on the subject matter of performance cars in general.

i could care less for american muscle cars that only go fast straight.. the 86 is a great platform, but the motor is weak (in performance and build quality).. one reason why i will never buy another car with a subie motor in it... the torque dip is painful and getting power out of it requires u to keep RPMs high... not really the best option for daily driving, esp with cops loving to pull over these cars (cos u know, ricers).... i am not beating a dead horse at all.. u're beating a whole different horse lol

[Willpower]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

i could care less for american muscle cars that only go fast straight.. the 86 is a great platform, but the motor is weak (in performance and build quality).. one reason why i will never buy another car with a subie motor in it... the torque dip is painful and getting power out of it requires u to keep RPMs high... not really the best option for daily driving, esp with cops loving to pull over these cars (cos u know, ricers).... i am not beating a dead horse at all.. u're beating a whole different horse lol

100hp/liter ain’t “weak” by any standards, past or modern, for a normally aspirated ice ...lol
Also, ya know, generalize. The Hellcat was one example. You can apply many others. Like I don’t take the BRZ off-road to the places I take my Rubicon. But they are both excellent tools for their intended purposes.

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by Willpower

100hp/liter ain’t “weak” by any standards, past or modern...lol

with unusable power

[Willpower]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

with unusable power

Apparently for you, yes. But not for everybody. I have a blast with mine and have no trouble at all keeping it in the power rpm range when I want. It’s very similar to an S2000, you keep it in the higher revs for the most power, which seems easy to me, and others as well.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

i could care less for american muscle cars that only go fast straight..

Most modern muscle cars are no longer limited to straight line speed. They all handle pretty well, particularly given their weight.

[DarkSideFRS]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Most modern muscle cars are no longer limited to straight line speed. They all handle pretty well, particularly given their weight.

true.. at the expense of eating up tires like crazy haha

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

true.. at the expense of eating up tires like crazy haha

Gotta pay to play

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