Random thoughts thread

[Shagaliscious]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Also its better for gas. You guys coast in neutral or downshift when slowing down from (idk) 40mph?

Actually due to gearing the AT gets better gas mileage than the manual. I also hear that the AT manual mode is quite good. I would test drive both if you are contemplating it this much.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Also its better for gas. You guys coast in neutral or downshift when slowing down from (idk) 40mph?

Downshift. If you're in neutral the injectors are spraying. If you're coasting in gear, the motion of the wheels is spinning the crank thus not requiring the injectors to spray.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Should I get a manual if I'm going to be driving a lot especially in the city and if I am on the expressway ~40% of the time - in stop and go traffic?

I've done both and honestly it doesn't amount to much difference. If you drive a manual constantly (I drove my MT MK1 MR2 25K miles a year) it became "automatic" because I just changed gears like I steer, instinctively.

With the AT FR-S, its the same thing, except now I use the paddles without thinking about it. Honestly, between the two, I like the paddles better than shifting.

I think you have drive and decide for yourself. One thing about the AT, remember to keep your foot in it when changing. When I first test drove it I instinctively wanted to use the accelerator pedal like you would in a manual. That made the first few shifts in the AT/Manual a little awkward.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Also its better for gas. You guys coast in neutral or downshift when slowing down from (idk) 40mph?

Neutral if I'm not trying to stop, downshift if I have to stop. If I have to waste all the hard earned momentum of the car, might as well enjoy the sound of the engine burning it off at 5000rpm

@Dimman are there any other cam grinders you can recommend? I'm looking at some in the South/Midwest cuz the Delta guy told me 300 bucks for the weld and grind, higher than what the salesperson told me last year 300 is quite a lot, I could probably just ask Crower to send me a Stage 1 for that much. Webcam said 410 bucks which is crazy, I can get a brand new set of Crower intake and exhaust for less.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Neutral if I'm not trying to stop, downshift if I have to stop. If I have to waste all the hard earned momentum of the car, might as well enjoy the sound of the engine burning it off at 5000rpm

@Dimman are there any other cam grinders you can recommend? I'm looking at some in the South/Midwest cuz the Delta guy told me 300 bucks for the weld and grind, higher than what the salesperson told me last year 300 is quite a lot, I could probably just ask Crower to send me a Stage 1 for that much. Webcam said 410 bucks which is crazy, I can get a brand new set of Crower intake and exhaust for less.

$300 sounds cheap to me. I think my buddy paid $1200 for his custom grinds, but it was for two cams (In/Ex) for a straight 6.

For the time, skill and frustratingly specialised equipment, that's not a bad price.

You gotta pay to play.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Which car?

I'm not against AT, as long as it fit the car... also purpose of the car.

I've done 3hrs traffic for a month (everyday) & I didn't mind... but that's just me

Probably a GTI - the newer-ish ones 2010+

Originally Posted by Shagaliscious

Actually due to gearing the AT gets better gas mileage than the manual. I also hear that the AT manual mode is quite good. I would test drive both if you are contemplating it this much.

Thanks! I wasn't referring to the Twins specifically, but I get what you mean

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Downshift. If you're in neutral the injectors are spraying. If you're coasting in gear, the motion of the wheels is spinning the crank thus not requiring the injectors to spray.

Wow TIL thanks!

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I've done both and honestly it doesn't amount to much difference. If you drive a manual constantly (I drove my MT MK1 MR2 25K miles a year) it became "automatic" because I just changed gears like I steer, instinctively.

With the AT FR-S, its the same thing, except now I use the paddles without thinking about it. Honestly, between the two, I like the paddles better than shifting.

I think you have drive and decide for yourself. One thing about the AT, remember to keep your foot in it when changing. When I first test drove it I instinctively wanted to use the accelerator pedal like you would in a manual. That made the first few shifts in the AT/Manual a little awkward.

Hmm maybe, I have so much fun driving my friend's manual cars, but feel bored driving autos, but I feel like it later might be a hassle, but I never hear that from about 80%+ of people I ask

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Should I get a manual if I'm going to be driving a lot especially in the city and if I am on the expressway ~40% of the time - in stop and go traffic?

When it's new to you, you might hate all the clutch work. But then you get used to it. Then one day you'll find yourself in an automatic and get aggravated at how you're a slave to the brake because the asshole car wants to drive off on its own if you don't hold it down. Either way, you'll get used to it after a while. It's only aggravating in the transitional phase.

I've driven my manual in rush hour/standstill traffic in Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Toronto, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, San Antonio, Orlando, Houston, etc. etc. etc., and everywhere in between on the interstates, and never once have I wished I had an automatic instead. This one time in Atlanta it was stop and go traffic up this crazy ass hill, and my leg actually started to get sore. Still was fine with it though.

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

we are already getting little snow lol.

What the hell is that?

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Dimman

$300 sounds cheap to me. I think my buddy paid $1200 for his custom grinds, but it was for two cams (In/Ex) for a straight 6.

For the time, skill and frustratingly specialised equipment, that's not a bad price.

You gotta pay to play.

Yea I'll do it for 300, but it's a little upsetting that brand new ones from Crower can be had for less...I probably should've just asked Crower if I could get the intakes separately before buying a spare core. They probably wouldn't sell me it though. In that case I feel good because I'm philosophically opposed to buying a set of cams and then having one sit around being useless. Still going to shop around a little see if someone will do it for a price in the 200s. I think it's under 3 hours of labor to do welds on 8 lobes so it should be possible?

Hrm. Crower claims their Stage 2 cams hit peak hp at 8000rpm, and they're 272 degrees. So does that mean if I have 264 stage 1 grind and move the lobe centerline back 8 degrees I get something similar? :O

[sklimo]

LMMFAOOO @Anthony " Slave to the brake because the asshole car........"

[Anthony]

Automatics kick my ass. Both my cars and my girlfriend's car are all manuals. Watching me sitting in traffic in an automatic, since it very very rarely happens, is about as entertaining as watching a new kid try to take off uphill for the first time in a manual - fucking clown show.

[sklimo]

I friggin hate automatics. My left foot gets bored as fuck and my right hand keeps trying to shift. And the old lady wont let me fondle her with said right hand because the kid is in the back screaming about how automatics suck. So in short Manual or GTFO LOL

[Anthony]

Hahahaha! "Kid in the back! Shutup about how automatics suck so I can fondle your mom! You're right though!"

Manual or GTFO indeed.

[sklimo]

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by Anthony

When it's new to you, you might hate all the clutch work. But then you get used to it. Then one day you'll find yourself in an automatic and get aggravated at how you're a slave to the brake because the asshole car wants to drive off on its own if you don't hold it down. Either way, you'll get used to it after a while. It's only aggravating in the transitional phase.

I've driven my manual in rush hour/standstill traffic in Chicago, NYC, Atlanta, Toronto, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, San Antonio, Orlando, Houston, etc. etc. etc., and everywhere in between on the interstates, and never once have I wished I had an automatic instead. This one time in Atlanta it was stop and go traffic up this crazy ass hill, and my leg actually started to get sore. Still was fine with it though.



What the hell is that?

We have no hills in FL and according to everyone, its a normal thing you just get used to but later can't be without. So manual it is