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08-15-2012, 03:38 PM | #1 |
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don't lift
does this apply in the FRS? i know some cars are susceptable to lift off oversteer but the frs doesn't seem to be one of them. what would be a situation you wouldn't want to lift in the frs?
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08-15-2012, 03:58 PM | #2 |
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When you are approaching the limits of traction in a corner, do not lift. Lifting at the limits of grip will upset the balance enough to induce oversteer. Unless you are trying to drift on purpose, don't do it.
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what if you're at the limits of grip in a long corner, 50% throttle, and the rear starts coming out? what do you do in that situation?
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It doesn't snap like an s2000 but like any car you will get the back end out if you lift... which is usually undesirable.
Worst time to lift would be when you crest a hill during a turn. Any time you already have weight trying to shift off the rear. |
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Kudos for all the intelligent responses. This thread could have gone south pretty easily. It is very refreshing. As mentioned, you can ease out of it or ride it out. Can't recommend the latter unless you don't mind getting dirty and there is nothing to hit when/if you yard sale.
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Low power RWD, dont lift.
But get some alone time with the car so you can figure out how to react in the aftermath of a sloppy corner. |
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When in doubt, throttle out
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08-15-2012, 04:33 PM | #11 |
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08-15-2012, 04:34 PM | #12 |
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It's not a FWD vs. RWD issue, it's a chassis balance issue. On my RSX (read: FWD) with thicker rear sway bar and coilovers, you could get the back end to rotate at will if you lifted mid-corner. Just the way the car was setup.
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I've found lifting RIGHT when your on that "limit" with this car is the quickest way to fudge things up UNLESS you want to get sideways. (not saying i wrecked the car or even came close). But right as you lift out of fear of getting sideway the engine and trans shift enough to just hose the balance and the rear will whip out a bit ....if not alot depending on how over that limit you were.
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Always look where you want to go also tend to help.
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