2014 Nissan 370Z

[Sigh-on-Rice]

Originally Posted by Symmetrical

Don't know about you guys hating so much, I think that under $30k that's a great deal. I'd rather have that over a Genesis or mustang IMO.

I agree that its a great deal for $30k. I just feel sorry for the people who bought 2013 model recently without knowing about 2014 costing 3k less.

[Kelbyat07]

I would probably consider getting the 370z if the price had dropped last year..

[bitterspeak]

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice

That's a big "IF". IF there was any way for the buyer to know it (i.e. dealer tells you like you said), then yes, it's buyer's fault. But it wasn't possible to know that 2014 model will be 3k less before it was announced today. 2013 370z just became a rip off model year just like 2012 Civic was.

Say, you bought FR-S for $25k today, or last month or whenever. Tomorrow, Toyota announces that 2014 FR-S will be priced at $23. You wouldn't feel like you just got ripped off?

Dealers will tell you when a new model year is coming out. They might not tell you the price of the new model year, but you will for sure know that a new one is coming out. It doesn't matter whether next years will be cheaper or not. What matters is the buyer chose to purchase the the current model car without all the information of the upcoming year. How do you get that information? You WAIT until it comes out, especially at the end of a model year cycle.

Regarding your last question, if I bought a FRS for $25k last month, or last year, whenever, i'm paying for the privilege to own it at the time you want it.

[Sigh-on-Rice]

Originally Posted by bitterspeak

Dealers will tell you when a new model year is coming out. They might not tell you the price of the new model year, but you will for sure know that a new one is coming out. It doesn't matter whether next years will be cheaper or not. What matters is the buyer chose to purchase the the current model car without all the information of the upcoming year. How do you get that information? You WAIT until it comes out, especially at the end of a model year cycle.

Regarding your last question, if I bought a FRS for $25k last month, or last year, whenever, i'm paying for the privilege to own it at the time you want it.

What you say applies to ALL cars.
What I'm saying is specifically 2013 370z vs 2014 370z:
$34k 2013 370z = rip off
$31k 2014 370z = deal

[sprintertrueno86]

I remember lusting over g35 coupes abd 350z's in 06.

Does the 370z feel like a death trap inside?

IB2015basecost28klol

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[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by bitterspeak

Dealers will tell you when a new model year is coming out. They might not tell you the price of the new model year, but you will for sure know that a new one is coming out. It doesn't matter whether next years will be cheaper or not. What matters is the buyer chose to purchase the the current model car without all the information of the upcoming year. How do you get that information? You WAIT until it comes out, especially at the end of a model year cycle.

Regarding your last question, if I bought a FRS for $25k last month, or last year, whenever, i'm paying for the privilege to own it at the time you want it.

Sure the Dealer would tell you when the 2014 model was probably coming out (if you asked). And in this case they would have told you nothing is changing. Nothing on the car itself was changed. I highly, highly doubt that the dealerships knew that the price of the car would be dropping.

And IMO I agree with others that the "base" model is missing some things that no sports car should, like a LSD...even though the sport package only comes with a shitty viscous rear diff. Sure the 19" Rays are nice but I wouldn't pay extra for huge wheels that aren't needed for any other reason than styling.

and FYI the MSRP on all 370Z models was dropped, except for the NISMO and Roadster.

I'm curious about someone's stated opinion that the Genesis coupe is a better sports car than the 370Z. Out of all the reviews between the 2 cars I have never seen one where the Genesis coupe won.

[tennisfreak]

Not gonna lie.

When I bought my vehicle back in March if the Z had been under 30K I would be driving it today.

That said. I am glad I bought the FR-S and love my car.

[Ricochet48]

I am so very torn now between the 370Z, BRZ and also waiting for the potential BRZ STI, new WRX, or new Z (even a 240Z?!).

If I got a twin today I would need to get an Innovate SC (which would then likely lead to a header, downpipe, exhaust, smaller pulley, robispec cooling, etc.).

Regardless I plan to spend 2.5k-3k on suspension for full coilovers, perhaps a rear bar, camber plates, etc. as I will track the car a bit and don't want a huge wheel gap, etc. So I'd be comparing them not in stock form FYI.

Thus assuming you obvious don't pay the MSRP, you can get a Z for say $28,750. I've seen BRZ Limited's going for $27,500 on the forum here. Thus the Z is $1,000 more for 50% more power and stock 18" wheels, etc. Add the sport kit and you're at $31,250 or so with an LSD, Syncrorev, and 19" wheels.

The problem then becomes expensive tires, lower gas mileage, and for some (not me), the lack of a back seat. I plan to spend $35,000 on my next car, but the question is whether I risk getting the power going FI in the aftermarket on the BRZ or just but the Z and forget about power mods and stick to some KW v3's (which I would get on the BRZ as well as I mentioned).

I want a BRZ with 18's, 210whp and the good mileage it gets! I think I'll still have to wait to see the STI will bring; however, I'm guessing it will add like 10hp with an ECU tune with a filter and better flowing exhaust. It'll cost 3.5k more and have better seats, 18" BBS rims, and some more red stitching too.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Ricochet48

I am so very torn now between the 370Z, BRZ and also waiting for the potential BRZ STI, new WRX, or new Z (even a 240Z?!).

If I got a twin today I would need to get an Innovate SC (which would then likely lead to a header, downpipe, exhaust, smaller pulley, robispec cooling, etc.).

Regardless I plan to spend 2.5k-3k on suspension for full coilovers, perhaps a rear bar, camber plates, etc. as I will track the car a bit and don't want a huge wheel gap, etc. So I'd be comparing them not in stock form FYI.

Thus assuming you obvious don't pay the MSRP, you can get a Z for say $28,750. I've seen BRZ Limited's going for $27,500 on the forum here. Thus the Z is $1,000 more for 50% more power and stock 18" wheels, etc. Add the sport kit and you're at $31,250 or so with an LSD, Syncrorev, and 19" wheels.

The problem then becomes expensive tires, lower gas mileage, and for some (not me), the lack of a back seat. I plan to spend $35,000 on my next car, but the question is whether I risk getting the power going FI in the aftermarket on the BRZ or just but the Z and forget about power mods and stick to some KW v3's (which I would get on the BRZ as well as I mentioned).

I want a BRZ with 18's, 210whp and the good mileage it gets! I think I'll still have to wait to see the STI will bring; however, I'm guessing it will add like 10hp with an ECU tune with a filter and better flowing exhaust. It'll cost 3.5k more and have better seats, 18" BBS rims, and some more red stitching too.

Drive the cars back to back for extended drives. The 370z will be much faster in a straight line, but the BRZ is the better overall drivers car. And by that I mean the BRZ is lower to the ground, handles and responds much better, has better driver feedback, and is much easier to toss around (my opinion). Sit in both cars and really get a feel for the driving position. They are different cars. The 370z is a solid car, but the cars are pretty different IMHO. The Z is more of a GT style car with the big V6 engine and the weight of the car. It really comes down to what you are looking for. I certainly would not blame anyone for wanting a Z over a BRZ/FR-S.

[Ricochet48]

Originally Posted by thill

Drive the cars back to back for extended drives. The 370z will be much faster in a straight line, but the BRZ is the better overall drivers car. And by that I mean the BRZ is lower to the ground, handles and responds much better, has better driver feedback, and is much easier to toss around (my opinion). Sit in both cars and really get a feel for the driving position. They are different cars. The 370z is a solid car, but the cars are pretty different IMHO. The Z is more of a GT style car with the big V6 engine and the weight of the car. It really comes down to what you are looking for. I certainly would not blame anyone for wanting a Z over a BRZ/FR-S.

Thanks for the solid feedback.

I live in Chicago where curve roads are few and far between. You have much more opportunity to go fast straight than you do on turns.

Additionally, I would bright a lot of the handling gap by modding the suspension of the Z though. Say the 370Z stock is a grade "C" in handling and with some V3's, etc. I can get it to a strong B+, while the 86 starts at a B and with mods I would have it at an A-. They would definitely both have the same wheel gap at least. I'm simply speculating though, but stock for stock I know they are different rides.

Time will tell as there's 'always something new' on the horizon; however, I am thrilled that the twins are influencing the market. I love my RSX-S to death--it's tracked quite well, has an awesome interior, and I can drive super easy with FWD & snow tires! I wish if you took it's nicer interior and added it to the twins with an even higher rev limit and the FA20's better lower end torque, we'd be talking about an even more stellar machine!

Thanks again.

[tennisfreak]

I can say that the back seats in my FR-S have saved my @ss 3 times so far. Another reason I'm glad I have my FR-S over a Z.

[Meehow86]

I think a price drop that large means Nissan wants to get rid of their inventory... because they're going to release a new model soon. I won't be surprised at news of a new Z coming out soon.

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

I can say that the back seats in my FR-S have saved my @ss 3 times so far. Another reason I'm glad I have my FR-S over a Z.

How so?

[brillo]

The 370z is just overpriced for its market and the price cut shows it. This is why Toyota and Subi were working so hard to keep the price of the twins down.