Asymmetric front camber, '23 w/coilovers

[steved]

'23 BRZ, stock suspension + verus camber plates in the front:

Left side plate is maxed out, right side has a visible gap:


Alignment specs (car is a '23, I guess they don't have the new specs in their system yet):

[cueball89]

Did the knowledgeable track race shop use a screw driver to move the camber plate on the right side? It looks gouged.

The angles of the strut mount and the knuckle look different to on the right and left side. The nut / bolt positions on the strut mount look different. Counting the machining row marks on the hub one side looks even and other has more row exposed at the top. What do I know..

Added my photos of stock shocks and OEM subaru camber bolts on the right side of the car for reference. I didn't put it on an alignment rack. I do my own alignments and only measured .2 or .3 degree difference between the sides.

[cueball89]

If the subframe was offset, wouldn't that show up in the thrust angle measurement?

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by cueball89

Did the knowledgeable track race shop use a screw driver to move the camber plate on the right side? It looks gouged.

AFAIK could have been delivered that way, could be shipping/handling before or after I unpacked and repacked the boxes, Functionality not affected, not worried about it.

The angles of the strut mount and the knuckle look different to on the right and left side. The nut / bolt positions on the strut mount look different. Counting the machining row marks on the hub one side looks even and other has more row exposed at the top. What do I know..

Not much. Counting machining marks means absolutely nothing. Both sides are maxed for negative camber. Feel free to swing by and check for yourself after I get the car back. What part of NY are ya in, it's a big state...

Added my photos of stock shocks and OEM subaru camber bolts on the right side of the car for reference. I didn't put it on an alignment rack. I do my own alignments and only measured .2 or .3 degree difference between the sides.

Happy for you. My '17 was similar.

Alignment will be measured again before further measures are taken. Current evidence suggests my car's camber is quite asymmetrical at both ends of the car, particularly at the front, but we'll see...

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by cueball89

If the subframe was offset, wouldn't that show up in the thrust angle measurement?

If the *front* subframe was off, no, that would not show up in thrust angle measurement... In any case I don't have "before" measurements, what you see in the first post are measurements after adjusting.

[Ruben_86_]

If it helps you, my KW clubsport (structurally are the same as yours) give me -3.1 ° of camber maximum.

It is a GT86 2014, but the values should be similar, I would say you have the subframe displaced to lose that -1 °

[86league]

I had maybe a 0.5 deg difference left to right for maximum camber on my SS1s. I just ended up removing that side and elongating the slot a little. IDK what the root cause was (subframe or SS1 asymmetry).

You could pull the bolts that are through the SS2 slots and put a caliper on them to verify they are the same length. You might also verify that both bolts fully seat into the semi-circle of the slot vs. being just a touch out of position and getting hung up at the start of the curvature.

[gcmak]

Originally Posted by steved

'23 BRZ, stock suspension + verus camber plates

I had my suspension installed last year by Elite Performance who had their own Shop Gen1 FRS and have worked on countless Gen1 and now Gen2 twins. I have a camber bolt at the lower position on the struts and I too have an imbalance. It's something they noted to me after the install. The result of needing to max out the camber plate is having endlink contact with the body on the driver side. Passenger side is still clear and might still clear maxed out (which is odd).

Unlike others, some combination of my car, my shop, my parts has managed to get more camber - which I am grateful for but thought I'd add some more info in case it becomes useful.





This is the witness marks on the body of the car from the driver-side endlink just from street driving.
I've yet to drive this updated maxed out camber setting on track yet. If anyone has any warnings/war stories, please tell me soon!


Driver side:


Passenger side:

[Clipdat]

Is Melody still working there and doing alignments?

[gcmak]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

Is Melody still working there and doing alignments?

You bet and she pretty much does all of my alignments.

[Clipdat]

Nice, she's great at them isn't she? Thanks for letting me know.

[norcalpb]

Any updates Dan on this situation?

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by norcalpb

Any updates Dan on this situation?

No update. Got the SPC bolts, see what they get me. Might loosen front subframe bolts and see if I can shift it to the left..

[jflogerzi]

very interesting topic...

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