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Old 11-08-2020, 12:26 PM   #1
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Bilstein B8+RCE Yellows vs Tien Flex A's

Redline has the Flex A's for 899$ which I am not sure how they do but with tax its just under 1K. Already have stock dampers from 2017 non PP dampers and RCE yellows. One is leaking so I am trying to gauge how much better each setup would be over current setup? Or just to replace the current damper that's leaking and call it a day. Then add peddlers top mounts for extra camber.

Separate question. For the peddlers top mounts, would a good alignment shop be able to use the Peddlers + crash bolts to get an even negative camber of 2 to 2.5 degree's on both sides?
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I had the RCE yellow + PP shocks and wasn't really happy with em. Thought they kinda rode like shit over bad roads. On decent roads they were ok i guess.

Havent tried pedders top mounts but my RCE SS1s came with nice top hats that are holding up well and haven't made any noise in the 15k i've had them installed. And with the crash bolts you can easily get 3+ degrees if you want it.

Decent coilovers are a good upgrade over lowering springs. Am i saying my car rides like an 80's cadillac over bad roads.. hell no but it doesn't feel like the damping can't keep up with the constant undulations in the road now.
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Wow that’s a great deal. Hope to see more of that this month. I’d go with the Flex A’s. Heard a lot of good things about them. You’ve had lowering springs already so why not try some highly rated coilovers.
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Why pedders? There are malady good top hat or camber bolt options.

I have whiteline camber bolts by themselves and have -2.5 in the front.
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I have decided I rather just get a new OE damper which was under 150$ and save the rest of the money for other small suspension upgrades.
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i'd usually replace dampers at least as pair though, at least if other one has already been through noticeable mileage.
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Use Bilstein B6 with RCE Yellows FYI.

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I had the RCE yellow + PP shocks and wasn't really happy with em. Thought they kinda rode like shit over bad roads. On decent roads they were ok i guess.
Did you have camber plates? PP struts have limited bump travel, with RAceseng plates and Swift Rspec springs (-1.25" lowering) I would bottom out the struts over the smallest bumps, BAM! My car rides infinitely better with Bilsteins vs. pp/Sachs dampers.
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At that time i didn't. I didn't bottom them out at all.

Hell when the coilovers crap out i might try the bilstein b6/yellow combo, i have heard good things.
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Use Bilstein B6 with RCE Yellows FYI.

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Why do you suggest using the B6 with RCE yellows? Is it because the drop is too mild?
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Why do you suggest using the B6 with RCE yellows? Is it because the drop is too mild?
Valving is the same between the 2, B8 has slightly less droop (extension) travel, presumably for short springs that otherwise would be loose. That's not needed with RCE Yellows or most springs for that matter.

RCE Yellows work well with either one, but droop travel is good to have.

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Valving is the same between the 2, B8 has slightly less droop (extension) travel, presumably for short springs that otherwise would be loose. That's not needed with RCE Yellows or most springs for that matter.

RCE Yellows work well with either one, but droop travel is good to have.

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Excuse my ignorance as I know very little of non-adjustable struts, but wouldn't B6 work well with short springs if you used helper springs with them?
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Excuse my ignorance as I know very little of non-adjustable struts, but wouldn't B6 work well with short springs if you used helper springs with them?
In theory yes, but not really possible with an OEM shape or fitment spring...helper springs are only available in the smaller standardized coilover shapes/diameters.

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Excuse my ignorance as I know very little of non-adjustable struts, but wouldn't B6 work well with short springs if you used helper springs with them?
What the man said ^^^

I got B8s to go with ~1.25" lowering springs (Swift R-Spec) to ensure they didn't unseat at droop, then found that others have used these springs with B6 without issue. No other differences between B6/B8 other than droop travel. Still it's nice to get tires off the ground with fewer pumps at the handle with the B8s! But unless lowered 1" or more I'd definitely go B6 for droop travel.
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