Rustproofing for Winter - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

blackfireball5 · 08-13-2012, 05:02 PM

Has anyone considered doing rust proofing on their cars? I've never heard of it until now and I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. We have crappy roads with tons of salt. I'd like to make my car last as long as possible as a daily driver through the winters.

http://www.krown.com/process.php

http://www.krown.com/products/the-kr...krown-product/

or what about another company like Rustcheck or Motorworx?

Tt3Sheppard · 08-13-2012, 06:44 PM

I'm also curious about this as well. Mass has some pretty bad winters and apparently they want to use a liquid road salt which is worse for cars

mashal · 08-13-2012, 06:46 PM

Best get a winter beater ..

White64Goat · 08-13-2012, 06:49 PM

Not familiar with the Krown process, but I did hear Canada in there. Check Ziebart as well. Very similar application process.

Tt3Sheppard · 08-13-2012, 06:52 PM

Winter beater....shit. gonna be a depressing 4 months

KAR · 08-13-2012, 07:08 PM

Check out por15

roddy · 08-13-2012, 11:18 PM

I am a die-hard Rust Check user. If you have it available, that would be my first choice. I have been using Rust Check for 20ish years, and have seen it's effectiveness. The company uses Crown on the trucks at work, and it does work, but I think Rust Check works better. Just my opinion.

samsam5886 · 08-14-2012, 05:01 AM

I read somewhere that the BRZ comes with treatment to prevent rust and corrosion.

FRiSson · 08-14-2012, 09:18 AM

Aftermarket rustproofing has been totally discredited. The conclusion is that it makes things worse by creating new layers that can pocket and hold water - leading to rust. The only way to delay rust is to do it at the manufacturing level by double-galvanizing and sealing. Toyota and Subaru already do this. Spend your money on frequent washing instead.

7thgear · 08-14-2012, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRiSson

Aftermarket rustproofing has been totally discredited. The conclusion is that it makes things worse by creating new layers that can pocket and hold water - leading to rust. The only way to delay rust is to do it at the manufacturing level by double-galvanizing and sealing. Toyota and Subaru already do this. Spend your money on frequent washing instead.

links? proof?

blackfireball5 · 08-14-2012, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7thgear

links? proof?

Yes, please.

empower-auto · 08-14-2012, 12:14 PM

They don't use much if any salt here so I will probably just wash my car regularly and not worry about it. My Mazda3 had no rust-proofing and after 7 years didn't have any signs of rust.

blackfireball5 · 08-14-2012, 01:14 PM

My 3000GT is getting bad rust on both rear quarter panels and underneath and it was garaged in the winter maybe half its life. was winter driven about 10 years. i just don't want this to happen to my FRS when i get it. :/

FRiSson · 08-14-2012, 02:22 PM

Consumer Reports

www.consumerreports.org

and The Car Guys.

http://www.cartalk.com/content/rust-...mpletely-bogus

I also read some articles in technical automotive journals that are not available except through libraries.

08-13-2012, 05:02 PM	#1
blackfireball5 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Firestorm Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 538 Thanks: 459 Thanked 102 Times in 74 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Rustproofing for Winter Has anyone considered doing rust proofing on their cars? I've never heard of it until now and I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. We have crappy roads with tons of salt. I'd like to make my car last as long as possible as a daily driver through the winters. http://www.krown.com/process.php http://www.krown.com/products/the-kr...krown-product/ or what about another company like Rustcheck or Motorworx?

08-14-2012, 12:14 PM	#12
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	They don't use much if any salt here so I will probably just wash my car regularly and not worry about it. My Mazda3 had no rust-proofing and after 7 years didn't have any signs of rust. __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

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samsam5886 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Honda S2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 58 Thanks: 24 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I read somewhere that the BRZ comes with treatment to prevent rust and corrosion.

08-14-2012, 09:18 AM	#9
FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Aftermarket rustproofing has been totally discredited. The conclusion is that it makes things worse by creating new layers that can pocket and hold water - leading to rust. The only way to delay rust is to do it at the manufacturing level by double-galvanizing and sealing. Toyota and Subaru already do this. Spend your money on frequent washing instead.

08-14-2012, 01:14 PM	#13
blackfireball5 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Scion FRS Firestorm Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 538 Thanks: 459 Thanked 102 Times in 74 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My 3000GT is getting bad rust on both rear quarter panels and underneath and it was garaged in the winter maybe half its life. was winter driven about 10 years. i just don't want this to happen to my FRS when i get it. :/

08-14-2012, 02:22 PM	#14
FRiSson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT Location: New England Posts: 1,081 Thanks: 118 Thanked 483 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Consumer Reports www.consumerreports.org and The Car Guys. http://www.cartalk.com/content/rust-...mpletely-bogus I also read some articles in technical automotive journals that are not available except through libraries.

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