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Old 08-19-2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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Anyone change transmission lube yet?

I know there have been a couple of postings on this subject but I was hoping to get more feedback.

So for those who have changed their gear lube what did you use and what effect did it have on shifting quality/feel?
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Old 08-19-2012, 10:01 AM   #2
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I changed mine and used Redline's MT-90 (GL-4) transmission lube. Shifts were fine beforehand, and even better after. I used to get a (very) slight crunch into 3rd, but that is gone now. I will be driving the car through winter and it gets pretty cold here. If shifts degrade as it gets colder, I'll try switching to MT-85. By modern standards 90wt oil is pretty thick. It is a pretty easy job...the hardest part is removing the shields under the engine and transmission so you can access the drain/fill plugs. If you plan on being under the car anyway, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the differential as well. I used Redline's 75W85 GL-5 lightweight gear oil.
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If you plan on being under the car anyway, I'd recommend changing the fluid in the differential as well. I used Redline's 75W85 GL-5 lightweight gear oil.
The NS gear oil is a better choice with that differential.
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The NS gear oil is a better choice with that differential.
NS? The only NS I saw was a 75W140. It has less or no friction modifiers (which is fine for a torsen as they dont need 'em), but imo is way heavier than needed for this application. It did seem strange that the oil in the transmission (75W90) is thicker than the oil in the rear end (75W85), but that is what the manual calls for, so I used it.

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Can someone make a DIY for this or is it straightforward? I believe they come with crush washers, correct me if I'm wrong.
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NS? The only NS I saw was a 75W140. It has less or no friction modifiers (which is fine for a torsen as they dont need 'em), but imo is way heavier than needed for this application. It did seem strange that the oil in the transmission (75W90) is thicker than the oil in the rear end (75W85), but that is what the manual calls for, so I used it.
There is a 75w90 ns too.

What you used won't kill it comma there is just a better option available.

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There is a 75w90 ns too.

What you used won't kill it comma there is just a better option available.

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Gotcha... I must have missed it. I'll give that a try next time around. 75W85 seems really light for a rear end. I think the reasoning there is fuel economy.
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Can someone make a DIY for this or is it straightforward? I believe they come with crush washers, correct me if I'm wrong.
It's pretty simple. If no one does a DIY soon, I'll do it next time. If you can change your own engine oil, you can probably do this, no sweat. Remove the plate under the engine first (10 or so bolts and 7 plastic clips), then the one under the transmission (5 or 6 bolts). Both drain/fill plugs are on the driver's side of the transmission case and are easy access once the plates (undertrays?) are removed. The transmission holds about 2.3 quarts.
The differential is even easier...there is nothing in the way. The drain plug is right in the bottom of the housing, and the fill plug is about 1/2 way up on the passenger side. It only takes about 1.3 quarts or so.
If you are thinking about picking up some magnetic drain plugs, don't waste your money...the factory ones are magnetic.There are crush washers. I thought I had the right size here already, but I did not, so I re-used the OE ones and haven't had any leaks.
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^ Im gonna see if I can get those washers for free when I get my oil filter from the dealer
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I'm "once bitten, twice shy" with Redline MT-90.

When I changed my trans oil I noticed it appeared to be identical to the Honda Manual Transmission Lube/Fluid (MTL/MTF). Look, smell, viscosity... Still kicking myself for not catching it and sending it off for analysis along with some Honda stuff for comparo.

Either way, I have the Pennzoil Synchromesh in my transmission and Amsoil 75w-110 in my Diff.
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Either way, I have the Pennzoil Synchromesh in my transmission and Amsoil 75w-110 in my Diff.

How is that Pennzoil Synchromesh working?
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Either way, I have the Pennzoil Synchromesh in my transmission and Amsoil 75w-110 in my Diff.

How is that Pennzoil Synchromesh working?
Great. I've used it in my S2000, my 198k mile Prelude, my CRX ITA racecar and now my FRS.

Other than the OEM stuff, it's the only fluid I trust in there to be thin enough at low temps, strong enough at high temps and friendly enough to my yellow metals.
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Great. I've used it in my S2000, my 198k mile Prelude, my CRX ITA racecar and now my FRS.

Other than the OEM stuff, it's the only fluid I trust in there to be thin enough at low temps, strong enough at high temps and friendly enough to my yellow metals.
I've seen it at my FLAPS and I don't recall if it is a synthetic?
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I've seen it at my FLAPS and I don't recall if it is a synthetic?
Semi-syn is my understanding.
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