Front sway bar links with KW-based coilovers

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by trinidadj

okay thank you so just to confirm you went with the KLC180-195?

I used the KLC179 but I have them a few turns from as short as they will go.

https://www.whiteline.com.au/product..._number=KLC179

The KLC180-195 looks too short to me.

[trinidadj]

Sorry didn't mean to say KLC180-195 I meant KLC180 210?

[Chuckable]

I’m about 1” lower than stock with -2° camber and the Perrin front bar and the KLC180-215 worked for me. I think it will work for you as well, but I can’t say for 100% sure.


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[trinidadj]

I ordered the KLC180 215 so I'll update on how it works out for me.



On another note I just had an alignment and the alignment tech said I can replace the end links like this and my current alignment would remain intact:


1. Raise car on jack stands, remove wheels, and Remove the stock end links then set the white line end links to the stock end links length.



2. Attach wheels and place the tires on raised wooden blocks at all corners to make sure it is loaded evenly.


3. Go under the car and adjust the end links so the sway the bar is not preloaded or under tension tighten the lock bolts by hand



4. Raise the car on stands, remove wheels, and tighten to end links torque specs.



If done in this order he said I wouldn't need to get my car re aligned is that true?

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by trinidadj

I ordered the KLC180 215 so I'll update on how it works out for me.



On another note I just had an alignment and the alignment tech said I can replace the end links like this and my current alignment would remain intact:


1. Raise car on jack stands, remove wheels, and Remove the stock end links then set the white line end links to the stock end links length.



2. Attach wheels and place the tires on raised wooden blocks at all corners to make sure it is loaded evenly.


3. Go under the car and adjust the end links so the sway the bar is not preloaded or under tension tighten the lock bolts by hand



4. Raise the car on stands, remove wheels, and tighten to end links torque specs.



If done in this order he said I wouldn't need to get my car re aligned is that true?

Yes, you will be fine. End links won't effect alignment.

[Chuckable]

Correct. No impact on alignment if you install the end links with no load on them.


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[norcalpb]

Originally Posted by Chuckable

Correct. No impact on alignment if you install the end links with no load on them.


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Is it even possible to add preload to the front considering it uses ball joints and no rubber bushings?

[Chuckable]

Originally Posted by norcalpb

Is it even possible to add preload to the front considering it uses ball joints and no rubber bushings?

In my experience, yes. If the end link is not the right length then it’s awful difficult to get it lined up right and tightened down easily. That’s why I’ve always been told to load the suspension as if it were on the ground while adjusting and tightening suspension components.


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[tintumz22]

Sorry to revive the thread. Just changed to a coilover setup and changed aftermarket shorter endlinks due to a shorter mounting point from the coilover. Do we need to position the sway bar perpendicular to the ground or leave how it is positioned when you take off both links in both side?

[Chuckable]

Not sure I understand your question? Basically you just need to set up the sway bar so that it’s slightly above the control arm and the adjustable endlinks are still in a safe adjustment position. You don’t want to unthread them too much or they won’t be safe to use.


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[tintumz22]

Originally Posted by Chuckable

Not sure I understand your question? Basically you just need to set up the sway bar so that it’s slightly above the control arm and the adjustable endlinks are still in a safe adjustment position. You don’t want to unthread them too much or they won’t be safe to use.


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I’m sorry if it is confusing. So while the car is up in jack, disconnect both endlinks, then position one side to the one you said above, then put load on the wheel/suspension and torque?

[Chuckable]

Yes, that’s correct. Connect the endlinks to the sway bar, load the suspension, and then adjust the endlinks so that they will slide right on to the coilover mount with as little resistance as possible. Then, torque them down to spec. You dont want any preload on the endlinks if possible. Also, obviously make sure that you’re safe during the whole procedure. It’s sometimes tricky to load the suspension with just jack stands.


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[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Chuckable

Yes, that’s correct. Connect the endlinks to the sway bar, load the suspension, and then adjust the endlinks so that they will slide right on to the coilover mount with as little resistance as possible. Then, torque them down to spec. You dont want any preload on the endlinks if possible. Also, obviously make sure that you’re safe during the whole procedure. It’s sometimes tricky to load the suspension with just jack stands.


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This is one of those instances I can see someone getting seriously hurt. Ideally you want the car supported by the wheels on all four corners. If the person can't do that I would suggest they let a shop do it.

[Chuckable]

That’s exactly why I added that disclaimer. With that said, I have used jackstands under the control arms half a dozen or more times, and done it safely. The ideal setup would be with the car elevated and the 4 wheels/tires fully supported on turntables or platforms, or a drive-on lift.


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