2nd gears a b*tch - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Carbon420 · 01-24-2013, 09:00 AM

I've had my FR-S for about 2 months now and am up to about 4000km. But I still have trouble with second gear. 9/10 times I have to work at it to get it to slip in. I have no troubles with any of the other gears just second.

Am I the only one?

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f0rge · 01-24-2013, 09:08 AM

I only have 1000kms but I've noticed it's not that easy to find second on a downshift. Upshifting is fine though.

RT87 · 01-24-2013, 09:18 AM

I kind of have to force it in as well.

And I see you're a fellow Calgarian

Future · 01-24-2013, 10:30 AM

-38c in Montreal yesterday.. Changed my tranny oil to pentosin and feels smooth like butter even 30secs after start up

Indred · 01-24-2013, 10:31 AM

Yes, i have this exact same problem since the day I bought it. I took it in and I was told it was "normal".

To their credit the tech said I could come back and and drive it with him in the car to show him what I'm talking about.

I haven't had an opportunity to do this yet.

Spd229 · 01-24-2013, 10:36 AM

It's a common 'complaint' for MT owners, most have gotten some results changing the gear fluid.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=gear

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=gear

edit-
How that's fairing, or if it's placebo I wouldn't know. But there's certainly enough people talking about it that it may be of some help.

NOHOME · 01-24-2013, 10:42 AM

Normal for the car. Dealer and Scion do not want to hear about it until it actually fails.

There is a thread that suggest some miracle lube will help. I will give it a try in the near future.

tbwoodlee · 01-24-2013, 10:50 AM

Yeah, I have this happen to me as well. It happens mostly on a cold morning.

However, it is not isolated to my 86. It has happened to me on almost every MT I have driven, much like @Spd229 said. I just imagine the car is saying "It's too cold to go in second, lets just hang out in first for while." Double clutching usually takes care of it for me.

Once the engine is warmed up I have no issues though.

Acree · 01-24-2013, 11:16 AM

My problem is downshifting from 5th to 4th. It's the only gear that catches without going into the gate. It's maddening.

-Acree

CaptainSlow · 01-24-2013, 11:28 AM

Upgrade your manual transmission oil.

Skywgn1 · 01-24-2013, 11:50 AM

Same problem. Have had it since June 20th and the problem is still there. 5700 miles.

CaptainSlow · 01-24-2013, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Upgrade your manual transmission oil.

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Dezoris · 01-24-2013, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainSlow

Upgrade your manual transmission oil.

Simple fix, swap the fluid to Pentosin and move on.

Wes · 01-24-2013, 11:58 AM

That's normal when car is cold though, but after it warms up it goes in well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acree

My problem is downshifting from 5th to 4th. It's the only gear that catches without going into the gate. It's maddening.

-Acree

That used to happen to me too, but just let it guide you so it doesnt get caught. I just pull it down and it goes into neutral of course but from there just go down to 4th but in 1 smooth motion if you know what I mean.

01-24-2013, 09:00 AM	#1
Carbon420 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Raven with carbon fiber Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 162 Thanks: 1 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	*2nd gears a btch** I've had my FR-S for about 2 months now and am up to about 4000km. But I still have trouble with second gear. 9/10 times I have to work at it to get it to slip in. I have no troubles with any of the other gears just second. Am I the only one? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-24-2013, 10:36 AM	#6
Spd229 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S AT Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 572 Thanks: 222 Thanked 314 Times in 155 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's a common 'complaint' for MT owners, most have gotten some results changing the gear fluid. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=gear http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...highlight=gear edit- How that's fairing, or if it's placebo I wouldn't know. But there's certainly enough people talking about it that it may be of some help. __________________ Last edited by Spd229; 01-24-2013 at 10:47 AM.

01-24-2013, 11:16 AM	#9
Acree Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 CSB BRZ Ltd Location: United States Posts: 1,035 Thanks: 147 Thanked 530 Times in 286 Posts Mentioned: 39 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My problem is downshifting from 5th to 4th. It's the only gear that catches without going into the gate. It's maddening. -Acree __________________ 2011 BMW M3 (No torque dip) 2013 Subaru BRZ - SOLD - Build Thread

01-24-2013, 11:28 AM	#10
CaptainSlow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Mid-Michigan Posts: 799 Thanks: 392 Thanked 388 Times in 180 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Upgrade your manual transmission oil. __________________ Ultramarine 2013 Scion FR-S 6MT

01-24-2013, 11:50 AM	#11
Skywgn1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S (manual) Location: Idaho Posts: 249 Thanks: 83 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Same problem. Have had it since June 20th and the problem is still there. 5700 miles. __________________ Customize the piss out of it and call it yours!

01-24-2013, 09:18 AM	#3
RT87 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT Location: Vietnam Posts: 200 Thanks: 86 Thanked 81 Times in 40 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I kind of have to force it in as well. And I see you're a fellow Calgarian

01-24-2013, 10:31 AM	#5
Indred Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S M/T Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 22 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, i have this exact same problem since the day I bought it. I took it in and I was told it was "normal". To their credit the tech said I could come back and and drive it with him in the car to show him what I'm talking about. I haven't had an opportunity to do this yet.

01-24-2013, 10:42 AM	#7
NOHOME Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: RAVEN Location: LONDON ONTARIO Posts: 787 Thanks: 86 Thanked 786 Times in 341 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Normal for the car. Dealer and Scion do not want to hear about it until it actually fails. There is a thread that suggest some miracle lube will help. I will give it a try in the near future.

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