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twag4 · 05-13-2014, 05:43 PM

Here is what I use

twag4 · 05-13-2014, 05:47 PM

Lawn equipment is not made for ethanol. It has no lubricating properties, and erodes the aluminum used in the engines. I put about 1/2 oz per gallon in my lawn gas for non two stroke engines. I've been doing this as long as we have experienced the unavailability of ethanol free gas in my neck of the woods.

twag4 · 05-13-2014, 06:00 PM

Look, I was hesitant to try this at first too. But, I kept remembering reading about those who had, and it worked for them. My cricket noise finally got the best of me and I gave in. I read a bunch about it outside of this forum. Audi owner's as well as other car owners with direct injection have had much luck with 2 cycle oil. My other complaint was that I already pay way too much for premium gas as is, This just ups the price. But at less than 50 cents a fill up, it is negligibly priced. I'm happy, and I feel the risk is very, very, very low. It works for me. I tried it and it cured my crickets nearly instantly. I have run through 4 full tanks with the two cycle oil before posting my results. I have about 10,500 miles on my car currently. If you're worried about it, then don't try it.

rice_classic · 05-13-2014, 09:23 PM

Opt for the zero-ash tcw3 two cycle instead. You can find it on amazon or at WalMart.

I use about 1.5 oz per fill up. I keep a little 2oz bottle in the trunk.

Having killed the crickets I'm much happier now.

SGT_slap_a_hoe · 05-13-2014, 11:31 PM

Sorry for sounding like a noob but where are you guys applying this oil? I'm going to go grab some and the syringe tomorrow

ATL BRZ · 05-13-2014, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGT_slap_a_hoe

Sorry for sounding like a noob but where are you guys applying this oil? I'm going to go grab some and the syringe tomorrow

Pour it directly into the fuel tank. Use a funnel.

twag4 · 05-14-2014, 12:31 AM

[QUOTE=rice_classic;1735219]Opt for the zero-ash tcw3 two cycle instead. You can find it on amazon or at WalMart.

I use about 1.5 oz per fill up. I keep a little 2oz bottle in the trunk.

Having killed the crickets I'm much happier now.[/QUOTE

The Lucas oil is TC-W3. TC-W3 is a certification by NMMA (National Marine Manufacturers Association) regarding lubricating properties and emissions goals. The fact that it is TC-W3 certified or not has no bearing in this application. I could care less how the oil performs in a Johnson 40hp, 70 hp, or Mercury 15hp engine under extended severe conditions. What I want is low ash, and cure the noise. Read about TC-W3 certification here:
http://www.nmma.org/certification/ce...oil/tc-w3.aspx

acg2010 · 05-14-2014, 12:47 AM

^ I think his only point was just that you can get zero-ash instead of even low-ash and in an easier to carry bottle.

rice_classic · 05-14-2014, 12:53 AM

Correct. no ash better than low ash imho.

twag4 · 05-14-2014, 01:11 AM

I'm not sure where you get zero ash information from. I will say that i just checked my old bottle of Lucas 2 cycle oil and it says TC-W3. The new one does not. Plus, the wal mart oil is cheaper by the gallon, so if it works then why not? Like I said, I'm not super concerned with how good of a two cycle oil it is, just whether or not it shuts up the crickets. I have years of experience with the lucas oil in high performance 2 stroke motocross engines running very high compression with race gas, and it works exceptionally well. It also works well in 2 stroke lawn engines. Sorry rice-classic if I sounded snarky, that wasn't my intent. Hard to hear emotion when reading the words on a page. I am not sure how a mineral oil such as wal mart's super tech could be zero ash, but a great performing synthetic blend would have more ash. Plus, it has higher certifications from ISO, JASO, and API. All of which are much more stringent certifications than TC-W3. TC-W3 does not mean zero ash. Nowhere in the certification requirements for TC-W3 does it specify zero ash. However, I would not be afraid of using the wal mart stuff in my car.

twag4 · 05-14-2014, 01:21 AM

Also, I think ashless would be more of a concern in an oil injection system rather than a mix like we are doing to our cars. Anyway, my opinion only. Best of luck!

HunterGreene · 05-14-2014, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twag4

Also, I think ashless would be more of a concern in an oil injection system rather than a mix like we are doing to our cars. Anyway, my opinion only. Best of luck!

So are you suggesting we should or should not use ashless?

twag4 · 05-14-2014, 10:35 AM

I'm making no suggestions. Do what you want. I was just sharing my experience.

Indestruct · 05-17-2014, 09:54 PM

I took delivery on my brz in May 12, I've had crickets within the first 1,000 miles. I've noticed that the crickets will go away when running e85. I've also noticed some gas stations produce more crickets than others.

When I switched my car back to 91 from e85 the crickets were on full fire again... I said why not, took it to the dealer and told them to replace my tail lights for condensation and the fuel pump. The assistant service manager said the crickets will be more quiet but not go away. I wonder how many miles before the crickets come up again?

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05-13-2014, 05:43 PM	#4061
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Here is what I use Attached Images

05-13-2014, 09:23 PM	#4064
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Opt for the zero-ash tcw3 two cycle instead. You can find it on amazon or at WalMart. I use about 1.5 oz per fill up. I keep a little 2oz bottle in the trunk. Having killed the crickets I'm much happier now. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

05-14-2014, 12:53 AM	#4069
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Correct. no ash better than low ash imho. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

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05-13-2014, 05:47 PM	#4062
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Lawn equipment is not made for ethanol. It has no lubricating properties, and erodes the aluminum used in the engines. I put about 1/2 oz per gallon in my lawn gas for non two stroke engines. I've been doing this as long as we have experienced the unavailability of ethanol free gas in my neck of the woods.

05-13-2014, 06:00 PM	#4063
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Look, I was hesitant to try this at first too. But, I kept remembering reading about those who had, and it worked for them. My cricket noise finally got the best of me and I gave in. I read a bunch about it outside of this forum. Audi owner's as well as other car owners with direct injection have had much luck with 2 cycle oil. My other complaint was that I already pay way too much for premium gas as is, This just ups the price. But at less than 50 cents a fill up, it is negligibly priced. I'm happy, and I feel the risk is very, very, very low. It works for me. I tried it and it cured my crickets nearly instantly. I have run through 4 full tanks with the two cycle oil before posting my results. I have about 10,500 miles on my car currently. If you're worried about it, then don't try it.

05-13-2014, 11:31 PM	#4065
SGT_slap_a_hoe Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Roseville, California Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sorry for sounding like a noob but where are you guys applying this oil? I'm going to go grab some and the syringe tomorrow

05-14-2014, 12:31 AM	#4067
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	[QUOTE=rice_classic;1735219]Opt for the zero-ash tcw3 two cycle instead. You can find it on amazon or at WalMart. I use about 1.5 oz per fill up. I keep a little 2oz bottle in the trunk. Having killed the crickets I'm much happier now.[/QUOTE The Lucas oil is TC-W3. TC-W3 is a certification by NMMA (National Marine Manufacturers Association) regarding lubricating properties and emissions goals. The fact that it is TC-W3 certified or not has no bearing in this application. I could care less how the oil performs in a Johnson 40hp, 70 hp, or Mercury 15hp engine under extended severe conditions. What I want is low ash, and cure the noise. Read about TC-W3 certification here: http://www.nmma.org/certification/ce...oil/tc-w3.aspx

05-14-2014, 12:47 AM	#4068
acg2010 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 4 wheels/engine/seats Location: Texas Posts: 167 Thanks: 74 Thanked 80 Times in 56 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ I think his only point was just that you can get zero-ash instead of even low-ash and in an easier to carry bottle.

05-14-2014, 01:11 AM	#4070
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'm not sure where you get zero ash information from. I will say that i just checked my old bottle of Lucas 2 cycle oil and it says TC-W3. The new one does not. Plus, the wal mart oil is cheaper by the gallon, so if it works then why not? Like I said, I'm not super concerned with how good of a two cycle oil it is, just whether or not it shuts up the crickets. I have years of experience with the lucas oil in high performance 2 stroke motocross engines running very high compression with race gas, and it works exceptionally well. It also works well in 2 stroke lawn engines. Sorry rice-classic if I sounded snarky, that wasn't my intent. Hard to hear emotion when reading the words on a page. I am not sure how a mineral oil such as wal mart's super tech could be zero ash, but a great performing synthetic blend would have more ash. Plus, it has higher certifications from ISO, JASO, and API. All of which are much more stringent certifications than TC-W3. TC-W3 does not mean zero ash. Nowhere in the certification requirements for TC-W3 does it specify zero ash. However, I would not be afraid of using the wal mart stuff in my car.

05-14-2014, 01:21 AM	#4071
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Also, I think ashless would be more of a concern in an oil injection system rather than a mix like we are doing to our cars. Anyway, my opinion only. Best of luck!

05-14-2014, 10:35 AM	#4073
twag4 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: frs Location: The depths Posts: 749 Thanks: 355 Thanked 427 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'm making no suggestions. Do what you want. I was just sharing my experience.

05-17-2014, 09:54 PM	#4074
Indestruct Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2013 SWP Limited BRZ, MT Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 252 Thanks: 52 Thanked 51 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I took delivery on my brz in May 12, I've had crickets within the first 1,000 miles. I've noticed that the crickets will go away when running e85. I've also noticed some gas stations produce more crickets than others. When I switched my car back to 91 from e85 the crickets were on full fire again... I said why not, took it to the dealer and told them to replace my tail lights for condensation and the fuel pump. The assistant service manager said the crickets will be more quiet but not go away. I wonder how many miles before the crickets come up again?

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