The Drifting Thread - Page 31 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

canu_50 · 02-12-2014, 11:17 AM

only time i got hit doing train.... was in the start line.. dumbass in front of me reverse in my front bumper... He didn't see me with his rear mounted Rad (350Z).

allmotorrex · 02-12-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by canu_50

only time i got hit doing train.... was in the start line.. dumbass in front of me reverse in my front bumper... He didn't see me with his rear mounted Rad (350Z).

You got hit while running a train? ..........

I watched a dude in a piece of shit 240 damn near total a 370z. They were 3 deep and the z was the middle car. The lead car ebraked it, the z ebraked it, the 240 just smashed him and drove him sideways off the coarse into a ditch and laid the 370z on it's side. If you gonna ride close it's def imperative to pay attention

gk · 02-12-2014, 05:34 PM

So I juat did the psm subframe and diff risers amd was wondering if anyone else who has done it noticed any play from the axle where it connects to the diff. It's definitely in there solidly but I am able to wiggle it about a 1/4 in or so from side to side

diss7 · 02-12-2014, 06:26 PM

I'll throw a spanner in the works.

I don't feel the diff/subframe risers are needed.

Running at 30-35mm lower, all axle angles are fine, as is the suspension geometry. Now if you go lower than this, these things are all thrown off, and this is what these risers are for, to return your axle angles and geomtry back in range.

So really it comes down to the ride height you want to run. Sure, 60mm lower might look more 'gank' than 30mm lower, but now you're so low, you're far more likely to damage the car when you eventually have an off.

At my ride height (which you can probably guess is about 35mm lower) I don't have the need for these riser kits, and also dont fuck my car when if I go off course.

philstar · 02-12-2014, 10:05 PM

Yeah subframe/diff risers are definitely not needed unless you are extremely low, and the car doesn't function properly at all. I hate that I need to spend all this extra money just to keep it reliable at such a low height.

My car doesn't react properly, the height makes it harder to drive, its putting excessive stress on the axles, the tires rubs immensely everywhere up front, higher chance of damage underneath, and honestly I don't recommend it unless you are absolutely all about this look and style.

It is purely stylistic but it just looks too damn cool to me!

TylerLieberman · 02-14-2014, 02:03 AM

^So sick.

I'm at the same point. I'm lowered about 2.5" and I could definitely use them. I want to go a tad but lower but I refuse to do so until I have the risers installed to keep from running into other issues

chas3wba0 · 02-14-2014, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by philstar

Yeah subframe/diff risers are definitely not needed unless you are extremely low, and the car doesn't function properly at all. I hate that I need to spend all this extra money just to keep it reliable at such a low height.

My car doesn't react properly, the height makes it harder to drive, its putting excessive stress on the axles, the tires rubs immensely everywhere up front, higher chance of damage underneath, and honestly I don't recommend it unless you are absolutely all about this look and style.

It is purely stylistic but it just looks too damn cool to me!

That's a pretty honest reflection of enduring the low life

gk · 02-14-2014, 09:12 AM

I should warn some of you tho about the risers, with both installed you do get a lot of noise from the diff. This is of course with my back seat down but it's a noticeable whine when it spins and the occasional clunk when shifting hard. But overall I dont mind the noise and it stiffens up the rear a bit. Also I just don't want to take a chance breaking an axle from hard driving/drifting etc

Chase Bays · 02-14-2014, 08:28 PM

I like the noise personally. It's soothing to the mind.

gk · 02-14-2014, 08:59 PM

And it sounds so mean 5k+ rpm with wot

Grip Ronin · 02-15-2014, 10:28 AM

hate that diff whine

JordanWho · 02-17-2014, 01:10 AM

I'm planning on doing the diff risers. Anyone got a clip of what it sounds like?

gk · 02-17-2014, 07:45 AM

Here's the video

Best audio quality I could get. The whine is noticable but most of the time the exhaust drowns that noise out

allmotorrex · 02-19-2014, 10:43 AM

Holy shit that's pretty bad. Sounds like you got a blower

02-12-2014, 10:05 PM	#425
philstar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Argento FR-S Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 436 Thanks: 59 Thanked 349 Times in 144 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah subframe/diff risers are definitely not needed unless you are extremely low, and the car doesn't function properly at all. I hate that I need to spend all this extra money just to keep it reliable at such a low height. My car doesn't react properly, the height makes it harder to drive, its putting excessive stress on the axles, the tires rubs immensely everywhere up front, higher chance of damage underneath, and honestly I don't recommend it unless you are absolutely all about this look and style. It is purely stylistic but it just looks too damn cool to me! __________________ Last edited by philstar; 02-12-2014 at 10:16 PM.

02-14-2014, 02:03 AM	#426
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,675 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,343 Times in 1,576 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^So sick. I'm at the same point. I'm lowered about 2.5" and I could definitely use them. I want to go a tad but lower but I refuse to do so until I have the risers installed to keep from running into other issues __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

02-15-2014, 10:28 AM	#431
Grip Ronin The Mechanic Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Civic Turbo,FR-S Location: NJ Posts: 928 Thanks: 130 Thanked 171 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	hate that diff whine __________________ IG-Joey_Soul Progress Thread Ported billet 20G

02-17-2014, 01:10 AM	#432
JordanWho Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Ford Focus RS & Toyota 86 GTS Location: Australia Posts: 423 Thanks: 260 Thanked 249 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm planning on doing the diff risers. Anyone got a clip of what it sounds like? __________________ Build Thread Instagram @jordanwho

02-17-2014, 07:45 AM	#433
gk Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: FL Posts: 28 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Here's the video Best audio quality I could get. The whine is noticable but most of the time the exhaust drowns that noise out Last edited by gk; 02-18-2014 at 11:54 AM.

02-12-2014, 11:17 AM	#421
canu_50 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Scion fr-s Location: Terrebonne Posts: 239 Thanks: 115 Thanked 59 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	only time i got hit doing train.... was in the start line.. dumbass in front of me reverse in my front bumper... He didn't see me with his rear mounted Rad (350Z).

02-12-2014, 05:34 PM	#423
gk Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: FL Posts: 28 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I juat did the psm subframe and diff risers amd was wondering if anyone else who has done it noticed any play from the axle where it connects to the diff. It's definitely in there solidly but I am able to wiggle it about a 1/4 in or so from side to side

02-12-2014, 06:26 PM	#424
diss7 Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: AE86, 2x GT86, TE27 Location: Christchurch NZ Posts: 1,478 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,179 Times in 522 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll throw a spanner in the works. I don't feel the diff/subframe risers are needed. Running at 30-35mm lower, all axle angles are fine, as is the suspension geometry. Now if you go lower than this, these things are all thrown off, and this is what these risers are for, to return your axle angles and geomtry back in range. So really it comes down to the ride height you want to run. Sure, 60mm lower might look more 'gank' than 30mm lower, but now you're so low, you're far more likely to damage the car when you eventually have an off. At my ride height (which you can probably guess is about 35mm lower) I don't have the need for these riser kits, and also dont fuck my car when if I go off course.

02-14-2014, 09:12 AM	#428
gk Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: FL Posts: 28 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I should warn some of you tho about the risers, with both installed you do get a lot of noise from the diff. This is of course with my back seat down but it's a noticeable whine when it spins and the occasional clunk when shifting hard. But overall I dont mind the noise and it stiffens up the rear a bit. Also I just don't want to take a chance breaking an axle from hard driving/drifting etc

02-14-2014, 08:28 PM	#429
Chase Bays Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: FR-S \| 335i \| S13 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 290 Thanks: 85 Thanked 232 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like the noise personally. It's soothing to the mind.

02-14-2014, 08:59 PM	#430
gk Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: FL Posts: 28 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	And it sounds so mean 5k+ rpm with wot

02-19-2014, 10:43 AM	#434
allmotorrex Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 08 4x4 offroad tacoma/ raven fr-s Location: Memphis Posts: 143 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Holy shit that's pretty bad. Sounds like you got a blower __________________

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