road noise - BRZ vs FRS

[darkphantom]

wow, a lot more attention much quicker than anticipated. I guess i'll put it into perspective here:

Current daily is the wife's car: 2012 Ct200h (it has poor insulation when thinking about a lexus but it really is just a prius in lexus clothing)
Previous: 2007 335i cabrio - didn't have much, just basic bolt ons and there was really no noise unless I put the foot down, enough so to hear the intake and waste gates but also not much road noise, granted it is a much higher build quality.

Either way - the Z was DEFINITELY alot louder but it wasn't as noisy if I was in 6th cruising.

I guess what I am trying to figure out, for people cross-shopping between the two, was road noise even an issue on long drives? I just don't want to be worn down by it say a few months later.

I will be buying used so I guess I don't have to worry too much about depreciation.


Edit: YES, the KEY threw me off a bit! I am spoiled by keyless for a while now!

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Road noise is a big problem for me in this car and the main reason I'll be getting rid of it when the lease is up. Adding performance-oriented tires makes it worse too.

This is such a matter of prospective. With the exception of my wife's previous Lumina LTZ (car not that awful van thing) the FR-S is about the quietest car I've ever owned. I personally feel odd and "disconnected" driving a car that is super quiet.

...I guess that must be how the MT bigots feel!!

[ls1ac]

It is interesting on how we all think differently about background noise. some want to hear music others want quiet while some (like me) found that while driving in a spirited manor (for me on the track) I could not hear the engine well enough to hear shift points (too busy to look at the tack). I had to go to an aftermarket exhaust to be able to hear the song of the engine.

[brandonblt2]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Road noise is a big problem for me in this car and the main reason I'll be getting rid of it when the lease is up. Adding performance-oriented tires makes it worse too.

Not true I upgraded the tires and the road noise actually decreased. The stock tires are pretty loud due them being so hard and having a lower rolling resistance.

[Tcoat]

Another factor that I am surprised has not come up yet, is the built in kazoo they call a "sound tube". These things are not much better than a party whistle and (to me) create an awful din to no advantage. Plug or delete that puppy and hear what the car really sounds like!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ls1ac

It is interesting on how we all think differently about background noise. some want to hear music others want quiet while some (like me) found that while driving in a spirited manor (for me on the track) I could not hear the engine well enough to hear shift points (too busy to look at the tack). I had to go to an aftermarket exhaust to be able to hear the song of the engine.

Yep!
What I also find odd are the guys that go catless/loud exhaust and then complain about road noise.
I mean, like, really?

I can hear my music just fine at highway speeds even with my TRD exhaust and noisy snow tires. (other than the occasional resonation as I said earlier)

[chaoskaze]

Doesn't even the stock stereo have some noise canceling thing built in? I usually just turn up the volume then it's fine.

But the truth is I'm now used to it so I drive on highway in 5th... lol

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I personally feel odd and "disconnected" driving a car that is super quiet.

...I guess that must be how the MT bigots feel!!

Don't get mad at us just because you chose an automatic. We had nothing to do with your decision.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

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noun, plural keys. 1. a small metal instrument specially cut to fit into a lock and move its bolt.

2. any of various devices resembling or functioning as a key: the key of a clock.


3. key card.

4. something that affords a means of access: the key to happiness.


5. something that secures or controls entrance to a place: Gibraltar is the key to the Mediterranean.


6. something that affords a means of clarifying a problem.

7. a book, pamphlet, or other text containing the solutions or translations of material given elsewhere, as testing exercises.

8. a systematic explanation of abbreviations, symbols, etc., used in a dictionary, map, etc.: pronunciation key.
Compare legend (def 4).


9. the system, method, pattern, etc., used to decode or decipher a cryptogram, as a code book, machine setting, or keyword.

10. one of a set of marked parts, designated areas, or levers pressed in operating a typewriter, computer terminal, calculator, etc.

11. a manually operated lever for opening and closing an electric circuit, used to produce signals in telegraphy.



12. Music.

1. (in a keyboard instrument) one of the levers that when depressed by the performer sets in motion the playing mechanism.
2. (on a woodwind instrument) a metal lever that opens and closes a vent.
3. the relationship perceived between all tones in a given unit of music and a single tone or a keynote; tonality.
4. the principal tonality of a composition: a symphony in the key of C minor.
5. the keynote or tonic of a scale.

13. tone or pitch, as of voice: to speak in a high key.


14. mood or characteristic style, as of expression or thought: He writes in a melancholy key.


15. degree of intensity, as of feeling or action.

16. a pin, bolt, wedge, or other piece inserted in a hole or space to lock or hold parts of a mechanism or structure together; a cotter.

17. a small piece of steel fitting into matching slots of a hub of a wheel or the like and the shaft on which the wheel is mounted so that torque is transmitted from one to the other.

18. a contrivance for grasping and turning a bolt, nut, etc.

19. Computers. a field or group of characters within a record that identifies the record, establishing its position among sorted records, and/or provides information about its contents.

20. (in a series of advertisements or announcements soliciting replies) a unique code inserted for each medium used, to determine the relative effectiveness of the media.



21. Electricity.

1. a device for opening and closing electrical contacts.
2. a hand-operated switching device ordinarily formed of concealed spring contacts with an exposed handle or push button, capable of switching one or more parts of a circuit.

22. Biology. a systematic tabular classification of the significant characteristics of the members of a group of organisms to facilitate identification and comparison.

23. Masonry. a keystone.

24. Architecture. (in a ribbed vault) a stone, as a boss, at the intersection of two or more ribs.

25. Masonry, Carpentry. a wedge, as for tightening a joint or splitting a stone or timber.

26. Carpentry. a small piece of wood set into a timber across the grain to prevent warping.

27. Building Trades. any grooving or roughness applied to a surface to improve its bond with another surface.

28. Basketball. keyhole (def 2).

29. Photography. the dominant tonal value of a picture, a high-key picture having light tonal values and minimal contrast and a low-key picture being generally dark with minimal contrast.

30. Painting. the tonal value and intensity of a color or range of colors: Rembrandt's colors are characterized by their low key.


31. Botany. a samara.

32. (initial capital letter) a member of the House of Keys.

33. keys, spiritual authority.



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adjective 34. chief; major; important; essential; fundamental; pivotal: a key person in the company; key industries.


verb (used with object), keyed, keying. 35. to regulate or adjust (actions, thoughts, speech, etc.) to a particular state or activity; bring into conformity: to key one's speech to the intellectual level of the audience.


36. Music. to regulate the key or pitch of.



37. Painting.

1. to paint (a picture) in a given key.
2. to adjust the colors in (a painting) to a particular hue: He keyed the painting to brown.

38. to fasten, secure, or adjust with a key, wedge, or the like, as parts of a mechanism.

39. to provide with a key.

40. (in the layout of newspapers, magazines, etc.) to identify, through signs or symbols, the positions of illustrations or pieces of copy in a dummy.

41. to lock with or as if with a key.

42. Masonry. to provide (an arch or vault) with a keystone.

43. Computers. keyboard (def 4).



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verb (used without object), keyed, keying. 44. to use a key.

45. Computers. keyboard (def 4).

Verb phrases 46. key in, Computers. keyboard (def 4).



47. key on,

1. Football. to watch the position and movements of an opponent in order to anticipate a play: The defensive backs keyed on the star receiver.
2. Also, key in on. to single out as of prime importance or interest; be intent on or obsessed with: a company that is keyed in on growth.

48. key up,

1. to bring to a particular degree of intensity of feeling, excitement, energy, nervousness, agitation, etc.: keyed up over the impending test.
2. to raise (a piece of masonry) by the insertion of a wedge or wedges.
3. to raise (the haunches of an arch) by the insertion of a voussoir.

Idioms 49. power of the keys, the authority of a pope in ecclesiastical matters, vested in him as successor of St. Peter.

Ahhh. Why didn't he just say so?

[MikeM7]

I've personally never been bothered by the road noise in my BRZ, but if it's the only issue you have with the car, it's something you can fix yourself for a couple hundred bucks and some effort.

Buy some sound deadening material and apply too doors and trunks (or if you really want a drastic difference, remove the seats and do the whole underside), and remove the sound tube entirely or plug it, problem solved.

If you want to win drag races, just buy another car unless you've got an extra 5-10k for FI. I have done most of the bolt on power mods, and while it makes a substantial difference, it's still not the fastest car around.

Road noise is easy to fix, power not so much.

[carma143]

[Tcoat;2210617]This^^^^
(oh and "Rock out" to ELO? Teehee)[/QUOTE]

A party's not a party without dunkenly singing in chorus to Mr. Blue Sky!

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Don't get mad at us just because you chose an automatic. We had nothing to do with your decision.

No hate here...we AT folks embrace difference...it's all good...just saying maybe I understand a little more now...yea...that's it.

[brandonblt2]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

Doesn't even the stock stereo have some noise canceling thing built in? I usually just turn up the volume then it's fine.

But the truth is I'm now used to it so I drive on highway in 5th... lol

Its not noise canceling but the radio increases the volume has your speed increases to compensate for the road noise

[darkphantom]

well, for those that have sound deadening dampening added - does it detract from the noise at WOT? Not to say that the BRZ has a special exhaust note, but just wondering what difference the deadening really makes.