If the FT-86 is a fail...what will you do? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum

SteelReign · 03-23-2011, 12:13 PM

Been lurking on this forum and I was wondering what everyone is going to do if the FT-86 turns out to be a fail. Everyone that's on this forum is probably a fan of lightweight, 2+2 RWD coupes (which seem to be almost extinct now). So, what is going to be a deal breaker (specs, prices, badging, name, etc) and what will you do if it comes to that? For me,

Fails if: base price greater than $25,000 or is over 2800 lbs (curb weight).

Plan: Get a used 370Z, S2000 or new RX-8 or new MX-5. Maybe wait for the rumored RX-7 revival.

What about you guys?

ichitaka05 · 03-23-2011, 12:20 PM

go w Subie. Simple as that

C-Bone · 03-23-2011, 12:28 PM

Ill save for a MKIV Supra Turbo, I said a while ago to myself that this would probably be the only car I'd get instead of a supra but would still like one someday

Edit: I was thinking if both Toyota and subie fail

WingsofWar · 03-23-2011, 12:39 PM

1. burn Toyota USA HQ down to the ground during business hours.

2. Dance naked around the burning building reeking of molten flesh

3. Piss on the ashes

4. ????

5. Profit

I_AM · 03-23-2011, 12:40 PM

keep driving my Mr-S and telling myself wow why can't Toyota build more lightweight RWD cars...and also hope my wife doesn't have kids soon haha.

TRDMAN · 03-23-2011, 12:56 PM

Sti or 370z

whaap · 03-23-2011, 01:23 PM

If it comes out resembling the phase II rather than the phase I it would be a fail as far as I'm concerned. I try to avoid buying cars whose designs I don't like. I would just keep my NB Miata.

SUB-FT86 · 03-23-2011, 01:42 PM

If I like the feel of the FT86 and it provides the right amount of power for the money I would buy it over anything in its price range. I don't need 300+ hp in a 2800 lb car but I would like at least 240 hp/200-240 tq from a 2.0liter D/I boxer turbo and still be able to achieve 31 mpg on the highway for around 25k base.

If this doesn't happen I would get a gently used 2011 3.8 Track Genesis coupe.

These are the only 2 cars I care about under 40k and the only 2 sites that I'm a member of. I want to think positive about the FT.

RRnold · 03-23-2011, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

go w Subie. Simple as that

+1

or plan B and go ol skool

Donson · 03-23-2011, 02:05 PM

In this case, I'll buy a Nissan GT-R V-Spec...

Giccin · 03-23-2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRnold

+1

or plan B and go ol skool

Ye. :/ Payin' for med school. Wee~~ -__-

Or buy new camera bodies and or lens.

Save up for a luxery performance or the subie version. If toyota can't make this car work out.. I slightly lose hope for them. :l How hard is it to listen to customer feedback?

WingsofWar · 03-23-2011, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giccin

:l How hard is it to listen to customer feedback?

Apparently very difficult, I went to a business seminar in LA once. One of the things that I remember they teach about marketing is, "the customer doesn't know what he/she wants, we tell them what they want." Im not sure if Toyota would follow suit, but much of corporate america and the media in general are structured like this.

When it comes to cars, the only people that care worth a damn are the people who are deeply into either the culture or the industry. Which is still only a fraction of total consumers.

Dark · 03-23-2011, 02:20 PM

Evo X and enjoy my life for awhile and get another beast.

Dragonitti · 03-23-2011, 02:46 PM

Probably look for a used RB/SR20 built motor 240sx, or a Twin Turbo 350z. If not, I might go STI/Evo

All the while continuing to build my track toy.

03-23-2011, 12:13 PM	#1
SteelReign Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: 2009 Hyundai Sonata Location: FL, US Posts: 80 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If the FT-86 is a fail...what will you do? Been lurking on this forum and I was wondering what everyone is going to do if the FT-86 turns out to be a fail. Everyone that's on this forum is probably a fan of lightweight, 2+2 RWD coupes (which seem to be almost extinct now). So, what is going to be a deal breaker (specs, prices, badging, name, etc) and what will you do if it comes to that? For me, Fails if: base price greater than $25,000 or is over 2800 lbs (curb weight). Plan: Get a used 370Z, S2000 or new RX-8 or new MX-5. Maybe wait for the rumored RX-7 revival. What about you guys?

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C-Bone Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Drives: '03 Tiburon Location: Washington State Posts: 413 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ill save for a MKIV Supra Turbo, I said a while ago to myself that this would probably be the only car I'd get instead of a supra but would still like one someday Edit: I was thinking if both Toyota and subie fail __________________

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I_AM Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: Toyota Mr-2 Spyder Location: PA Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	keep driving my Mr-S and telling myself wow why can't Toyota build more lightweight RWD cars...and also hope my wife doesn't have kids soon haha.

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SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,074 Thanks: 108 Thanked 459 Times in 265 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If I like the feel of the FT86 and it provides the right amount of power for the money I would buy it over anything in its price range. I don't need 300+ hp in a 2800 lb car but I would like at least 240 hp/200-240 tq from a 2.0liter D/I boxer turbo and still be able to achieve 31 mpg on the highway for around 25k base. If this doesn't happen I would get a gently used 2011 3.8 Track Genesis coupe. These are the only 2 cars I care about under 40k and the only 2 sites that I'm a member of. I want to think positive about the FT.

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