test drove FRS

[ntron1]

Not Hating....When I test drove the BRZ, It was dull and boring compared to my other car but knew it would make a great Daily Driver to play around with.

[Soclose09]

Fred Haas On I45 has a few blue FR-S when I was there. and they are open on sundays.. and if you go, ask for LEE.. he'll hook you up with the fr-s on the test drive lol

[GloriousJ]

Originally Posted by mush

i had a grin on my face the whole time

Shhh...

You hear that?

I think your brain is tryin' to tell you something...

[thill]

Originally Posted by mush

read many stories about how awesome the car was and how u had to have it after the test drive/mind blown after test drive
the car is good but i was expecting more, maybe im spoiled by my GS. the FRS is a nice ride for the price tho

i went to 2 dealers and got to test drive 2 gray FRS
the first dealer gave me the keys and said enjoy. hopped in with my mom and drove it like i stole it. the whole time my mom was complaining "slow down" "its loud"(motor) "its so low" "its not comfortable"(stiffness), "its small" blah blah... HAHA it was awsome, i had a grin on my face the whole time but somethin was missing... the speed/acceleration
the sales guy at the second dealer sat with me... we went through some slow 35mph street and i was bored. redlined it a few times but thats it

ill have to test drive this car a few more times before i buy, just to make sure its the car i want, plus they didnt have blue and i think im gonna wait for the 2014
before i bought the GS i only test drove it once and i was sold (also drove it like i stole it during the test drive)

Redlining a car you don't own "a few times" is kinda wrong.. I don't think you actually appreciate the car for what it is. Sounds to me like you are a Mustang guy. ...

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by mush

whats up with the hate? using a car to pick up chicks? haha...
the FRS gets compared to diff types of cars all the time, last vid i saw was FRS vs Civic SI, both are "sports" car but diff platform rwd/fwd

civic si, vw golf, celica gts, dodge dart, kia forte are "sporty" cars

miata, lotus elise, frs are sports cars but not performance cars

the civic si has character to it but wont ever have soul like the frs does

your gs is luxury "performance"

ISF, m5, amg are performance luxury cars

sorry had to chime in

you are looking for a car with performance and highway speed, not a sports car. the frs is about smiles per miles and getting the back end out every once in a while...

there are a lot of people on this forum that came from m5's, Porsche 911's, ect because of the way the car makes them feel. until the twins there wasn't another car out there like it. I had a discussion with my friend and he will never understand why people come from those types of cars to the FRS/BRZ, thats why he drives a new camaro. He did get a taste though, i took him drifting. he said he would never have the confidence to drive his car like that and i told him " its not me but the car itself inspires me and gives me the confidence to drift, i was a lot less comfortable in my friends 240z and s2000 doing the same thing"

smiles per miles... smiles per miles...

[Wo6M]

I like that... Smiles per miles....

[Alabang 86]

I agree, the 86 is fun but I would never buy it as my only car.

I have a lot of cars and bikes all good but in different ways.


BMW GS

fyi - this is not me or my bike

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by Alabang 86

I agree, the 86 is fun but I would never buy it as my only car.

I have a lot of cars and bikes all good but in different ways.


BMW GS

fyi - this is not me or my bike

that guy is ready for a zombie apocalypse lol

[autobrz]

If you equate acceleration and torque to fun then fr-s isn't the car for you. You should get a genesis or GTI. When I went to test drive the BRZ the salesman suggested we take it through some twisty back roads behind the dealership. I was sold as soon as I exited the first U-turn on full throttle. big grin on my face that I couldn't wipe off.

That intake resonator is very annoying. You can plug it to stop your mom from complaining.

[Fett4Real]

Your GS has your spoiled with torque...go drive something that handles like crap and is slow and then drive the 86. Cant go in all spoiled and expect to love it. I agree it could use more power...but does NEED it.

[autobrz]

This car doesn't have much longitudinal acceleration. You should try to generate more lateral acceleration before getting on the throttle to make full use of the tires' grip. Then you will really feel pushed into the corner of your seats not the back of them

[Fett4Real]

Turn off the VSC

[mush]

I like the car overall. i need to drive the car a few times before im comfortable with taking turns at higher speeds(what this car is ment for). I dont wanna wrap myself around the pole on a test drive lol

My mom tagged along to help me buy the car, if i get it she would probably never drive or even ride in it. (Her choice)

[thill]

Let's look at the actual numbers though. Per Motortrend The GS 350 F-Sport has:

Lexus GS 350 F=Sport
Base Price: $53,465
Power:306hp, 277-lb-ft torque
Weight: 3825 lb
Weight to power: 12.5
Length x width x height: 190.7 x 72.4 x 57.3 in
0-60: 5.5 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.0 sec @ 100.9 mphMPG:
Lat acceleration: 91g (average)
Figure Eight: 25.7 sec @ 0.70 g (avg)
MPG : 19/28 mpg

FRS-S

Base Price: $24,930
Power:200hp, 151-lb-ft torque
Weight: 2737 lb
Weight to power: 13.7
Length x width x height: 166.7 x 69.9 x 51.2 in
0-60: 6.2 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.8 sec @ 94.3 mph
Lat acceleration: 0.93 g (avg)
Figure Eight: 25.9 sec @ 0.67 g (avg)
MPG : 22/30 mpg

So the Lexus has a lot more horsepower and torque. But it is also weighs almost 1100 pounds more, and is a much bigger car. You need more hp and torque to propel that mass vs the FR-S which is much lighter and small. The Lexus is also has a much higher center of gravity and a noticeably different driving position. If you look at the Motor Trend test data a $53K Lexus is not that much faster than a $24K Scion. Less than a second. In the real world, probably not that noticeable (unless the OP was driving an automatic FR-S which would probably make is much more noticeable). Figure 8 times are very close, and with some decent tires on the FR-S it would clearly have the advantage here.

I just don't see a huge discrepancy in terms of power and performance. The Lexus may feel faster, but it really is not. With a tune and a new exhaust and better tires, I am not convinced the Lexus would be superior at all in terms of acceleration.

The bottomline is the Lexus is a big heavy car with high HP and torque. The FR-S is pretty much the polar opposite. It is a light smaller car with a low center of gravity that is made to be driven. It it quick, but not fast.

OP, if you prefer HP/TQ then look to the Mustang and Genesis Coupe. Either of them will be give you that torque and horsepower you seem to crave and will easily leave your Lexus behind in a stop light race or on the track. Especially a Mustang GT which can be had for under $30K. I have owned these cars, and there is no way I would trade my BRZ in for either (I got rid of a Gencoupe last week for my BRZ). The BRZ is a drivers car. It was designed from the ground up to be a drivers car. The Lexus was designed to be a performance sedan that has a hint of sportiness.

You are really comparing apples to oranges here and the price difference is massive. Now put your Lexus up against a Cayman S and get back to me