JDL 4-2-1 EL header - Page 33 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Spawn_Of_Creation · 10-26-2022, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

Sure he can, and we got another guy as well

Are you talking about Steve99?

RToyo86 · 11-13-2022, 01:29 AM

OEM catback with 2.5" over pipe and Catted/resonated front pipe.

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 11-14-2022, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RToyo86

OEM catback with 2.5" over pipe and Catted/resonated front pipe.

sounds almost oem! how loud is it though, compared to oem? hard to tell

RToyo86 · 11-14-2022, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

sounds almost oem! how loud is it though, compared to oem? hard to tell

A bit louder than stock at WOT inside the cabin but not by much. Seat seats up it's basically stock sounding. Seats down there is some added resonance.

IvoryHammer · 11-26-2022, 10:20 PM

Has anyone had any fitment issues to the front fan shroud/latch support? I'm having a tough time installing my header because it's rubbing up against it.

https://imgur.com/a/BPNTS8d

PulsarBeeerz · 11-26-2022, 11:39 PM

With a wrapped header I have maybe 1/4” of clearance in that area. It was tight with the HKS EL as well.

RToyo86 · 11-27-2022, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IvoryHammer

Has anyone had any fitment issues to the front fan shroud/latch support? I'm having a tough time installing my header because it's rubbing up against it.

https://imgur.com/a/BPNTS8d

https://postimg.cc/5jMDrxzX

https://postimg.cc/H82wZ0y9

https://imgur.com/2VTFepP

https://imgur.com/BiEcyTV

Fitment was close as mentioned above while installing mine. The header to block flange holes allowed a bit of wiggling up/down to get everything set. I did hammer the belly pan as posts earlier showinf it could rub.

I am also realizing I don't think I got the titanium color thermal coating I ordered

.
Looks darker than titanium and lighter than tungsten.

IvoryHammer · 11-27-2022, 01:36 AM

Looks like I'm not crazy, I'll have to try a bit harder to fit it in tomorrow. Thanks for the pictures of your car, it helps!

Alastor · 11-27-2022, 06:22 AM

My opinion, better EL 4-2-1.

My Greddy headers work fine fine.

ihavefat · 11-27-2022, 08:33 PM

I posted on your Reddit post. You should have some room left near the front

JBezugs · 11-30-2022, 04:33 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClmWLOnuqm1/

Going to leave this here. CSG has tuned a 2nd gen BRZ with these headers on 91 octane and the gains are pretty bananas.

On their conservative dyno, 215whp is no joke!

a stock FA24 puts down 186whp on there vs 210-215whp from most Dynojets I've seen
for more reference (if memory serves correctly), a stock FA20 does about 150whp, and one with the same JDL 4-2-1 EL header is sitting around 175whp.

Sure makes me jelly of 2nd gen owners!

DocWalt · 12-06-2022, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RToyo86

Fitment was close as mentioned above while installing mine. The header to block flange holes allowed a bit of wiggling up/down to get everything set. I did hammer the belly pan as posts earlier showinf it could rub.

I am also realizing I don't think I got the titanium color thermal coating I ordered .
Looks darker than titanium and lighter than tungsten.

Looks about right to me, I had the titanium color ceramic coating on my first gen header and it matched your color.

jflogerzi · 12-09-2022, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBezugs

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClmWLOnuqm1/

Going to leave this here. CSG has tuned a 2nd gen BRZ with these headers on 91 octane and the gains are pretty bananas.

On their conservative dyno, 215whp is no joke!

a stock FA24 puts down 186whp on there vs 210-215whp from most Dynojets I've seen
for more reference (if memory serves correctly), a stock FA20 does about 150whp, and one with the same JDL 4-2-1 EL header is sitting around 175whp.

Sure makes me jelly of 2nd gen owners!

agree!

FeRS · 07-18-2023, 08:31 PM

What tunes do y'all use for these headers? Planning on buying and have been scouring around for the best ways to get power out of these.

Other than custom, I figure theres:
OFT 2.76 (when they had EL and UEL separate)
OFT 4.03
Wayne (normal short length EL)
Wayne ACE long tube (I think I saw someone mention using this?)
Steve (does he make a tune for this header?)

I'm leaning towards just grabbing a normal EL tune from Wayne but curious about what y'all get results with.

11-26-2022, 10:20 PM	#453
IvoryHammer Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Drives: '17 BRZ PP Location: Bay Area Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Has anyone had any fitment issues to the front fan shroud/latch support? I'm having a tough time installing my header because it's rubbing up against it. https://imgur.com/a/BPNTS8d Last edited by IvoryHammer; 11-27-2022 at 12:09 AM.

11-30-2022, 04:33 PM	#459
JBezugs Good Job Subaru! Join Date: Mar 2016 Drives: Green '17 BRZ Sport-Tech MT Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 348 Thanks: 141 Thanked 327 Times in 154 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	https://www.instagram.com/p/ClmWLOnuqm1/ Going to leave this here. CSG has tuned a 2nd gen BRZ with these headers on 91 octane and the gains are pretty bananas. On their conservative dyno, 215whp is no joke! a stock FA24 puts down 186whp on there vs 210-215whp from most Dynojets I've seen for more reference (if memory serves correctly), a stock FA20 does about 150whp, and one with the same JDL 4-2-1 EL header is sitting around 175whp. Sure makes me jelly of 2nd gen owners! __________________ My Green 2017 BRZ Build Thread

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RToyo86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Drives: 17 Asphalt 86 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,163 Thanks: 1,706 Thanked 2,195 Times in 1,124 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OEM catback with 2.5" over pipe and Catted/resonated front pipe.

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PulsarBeeerz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD Location: Ohio Posts: 934 Thanks: 676 Thanked 739 Times in 396 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	With a wrapped header I have maybe 1/4” of clearance in that area. It was tight with the HKS EL as well.

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IvoryHammer Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Drives: '17 BRZ PP Location: Bay Area Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looks like I'm not crazy, I'll have to try a bit harder to fit it in tomorrow. Thanks for the pictures of your car, it helps!

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ihavefat Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Drives: 2018 BRZ Location: GA Posts: 64 Thanks: 25 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I posted on your Reddit post. You should have some room left near the front

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