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09-10-2022, 10:26 AM | #15 | |
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OP's car is a 17 with 27k. on the clock. Last edited by blsfrs; 09-10-2022 at 10:28 AM. Reason: Mental fog |
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09-10-2022, 10:49 AM | #16 | |
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Mine started just past 12000km, and in the huge thread about it, some people got the light rolling out of the lot. If that is his issue, OP is terribly unlucky that it was juuuuuuust tight enough to get this long for it to cause trouble, it's probably not under warranty anymore. Mine failed under warranty and it took like 3 visits to the dealer and I eventually lost the car for a month. If I had to have it happen again outside the warranty, I'd go through the touble of checking the valve lash myself rather than bringing it to a dealer only for them to run around for hours going down the diagnostic flow chart only to come to the conclusion that they want to yank it out after throwing 8 injectors, an ECM and a injector driver module at it. While the shims can't be changed in place, the lash certainly can be checked with basic tool while the engine is still in the car. It's not exactly "fun" if you've not mechanically inclined as it may still be daunting to take the valve covers off and there isn't a lot of room to work in, it may be necessary if OP wants to save literally thousands of dollars. If OP is mechanically inept, having the lash checked by a trusted independent mechanic is still going to be way cheaper and easier than going through the dealer's bureaucracy and paying their rate, but find a place that likes subarus, as some mechanics are scared of the big bad subaru pancake: They'll see the room they have to work in and turn you down on the spot. They're pussies, it's not that bad, if there's room to do plugs in there, there's room to wiggle a feeler gauge. |
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Dropped off at dealer 8/18/22. Their initial diagnostics pointed to an internal engine issue (not ignition, not fuel injection). They were finally able to take the engine out of the car and open it today and found a broken valve spring (I don't remember if it was intake or exhaust valve) on cylinder 2. Original CEL code was P0300 and P0303, cylinder 3. Apparently "lucked out" that there doesn't appear to be any collateral damage or piston damage. Unbelievable how a 1-owner, bone stock car with only 27,600 miles, never tracked or autoxed (or really even driven hard for that matter) could have this issue. I thought the valve springs were upgraded at some point before 2017? No misshifts ever, oil changed every 5k miles or less, driven very conservatively, always let engine warm up completely before going past 2500 RPMs. I'll do a search on the bad batch of 2017/2018 engines, but if anyone has experience with this or can point me to threads, I'd appreciate it. 5-year powertrain warranty ran out 1 month prior to this. Working with SOA to see what they can do. Seems like a design flaw or workmanship issue that they should be on the hook for. 2017 BRZ 6MT w/PP. Last edited by 96z2; 09-16-2022 at 03:16 PM. |
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Sure is interesting. Truly lucky it didn't drop the valve or fuck up the head.
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The springs were probably changed a couple of times over the years. Bad parts make it into cars sometimes. You just had the horrible luck to get one of them.
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Just an update for posterity and to put a bow on this thread since it was frustrating for me to search for threads and then read them only to be left hanging because other OPs didn't update with the issue resolution.
Recap: 2017 BRZ 6MT, bone stock never modified, original owner, 27.6k miles, all maintenance performed by the book, driven conservatively, never tracked. P0300 and P0303 misfire codes. I was 1 month past the expiration of my 5 yr powertrain warranty. It was not a spark or fuel issue. The issue was a fractured valve spring (I didn't bother to ask if it was an intake or exhaust valve) in cylinder 3. Luckily the valve didn't drop and cause any further damage. The dealer removed the engine, opened the heads on both banks and verified the one spring in cylinder 3 was the only fractured one. They replaced all 4 springs and valves in cylinder 3 and reinstalled the engine in the car. Total cost for parts/labor/tax: $5044. For various reasons (dealer tech shortage, queue of other cars at the dealer, parts availability), it took 2.5 months from the time I dropped it off to the time I got it back. I actually had to buy an OEM catalytic converter gasket from eBay myself and give it to the dealer to enable them to reassemble everything because that part was on national backorder and they wouldn't have been able to obtain it through official channels for at least another month After painstakingly making my case, SOA offered a $4000 credit for the repair so I was out of pocket for the remainder. I received the car back a week ago and it ran fine for the 40 miles I put on it before I sold it to a well-known used car retailer. Why did I sell? Well, how would anyone be able to trust the other valve springs that were not replaced? This was a bone stock car that was maintained and never abused. It must have been a bad batch of springs. Why didn't I ask to have the other valve springs replaced? It may be just me, but I can no longer trust an engine after it's been opened and knew I was going to sell the car regardless. I wasn't going to pay more to get the other ones replaced. Anyways, I love the chassis and handling of these cars but have had the worst luck with the turd of an engine that the FA20 is. I was ok with the fact that it makes no power, no torque, has a torque dip, isn't smooth, doesn't sound good, etc... but to also have it be unreliable is just The BRZ was actually my second twin. I also had one of the first 2013 FR-Ss to arrive in the states, also kept it bone stock, maintained it well, tracked it 4 times and it broke a valve spring (it was one of the early casualties to the issue that we all now know as the J02 recall) and dropped a valve after 35k miles (covered under powertrain warranty). I love the 2nd gen GR86/BRZ but just can't get myself to go for one after all this. But hey, maybe 3rd time's the charm? Last edited by 96z2; 11-08-2022 at 11:17 AM. |
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On a 2014 it's likely a bad engine wiring harness....there is an updated version, plus updated coils availableut due to those codes.
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